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We performed a comparison between Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics, SSIS, and Talend Data Management Platform based on real PeerSpot user reviews.

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Q&A Highlights
Question: Which ETL tool would you recommend to populate data from OLTP to OLAP?
Answer: We have experiences only in Pentaho Data Integrator (open source competitor of the Oracle Data Integrator). But OLAP exporting wasn't in our scope until now.
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"The fact that it enables us to leverage metadata to automate data pipeline templates and reuse them is definitely one of the features that we like the best. The metadata injection is helpful because it reduces the need to create and maintain additional ETLs. If we didn't have that feature, we would have lots of duplicated ETLs that we would have to create and maintain. The data pipeline templates have definitely been helpful when looking at productivity and costs.""This solution allows us to create pipelines using a minimal amount of custom coding.""One of the most valuable features is the ability to create many API integrations. I'm always working with advertising agents and using Facebook and Instagram to do campaigns. We use Pentaho to get the results from these campaigns and to create dashboards to analyze the results.""I absolutely love Hitachi. I'm one of the forefront supporters of Hitachi for my firm. It's so easy to integrate within our environments. In terms of being able to quickly build ETL jobs, transform, and then automate them, it's really easy to integrate throughout for data analytics.""Flexible deployment, in any environment, is very important to us. That is the key reason why we ended up with these tools. Because we have a very highly secure environment, we must be able to install it in multiple environments on multiple different servers. The fact that we could use the same tool in all our environments, on-prem and in the cloud, was very important to us.""Lumada has allowed us to interact with our employees more effectively and compensate them properly. One of the cool things is that we use it to generate commissions for our salespeople and bonuses for our warehouse people. It allows us to get information out to them in a timely fashion. We can also see where they're at and how they're doing.""Pentaho Data Integration is quite simple to learn, and there is a lot of information available online.""We can schedule job execution in the BA Server, which is the front-end product we're using right now. That scheduling interface is nice."

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"SSIS' most valuable feature is its reporting services.""It's a competent product.""The simplicity of the solution is great. The solution also offers excellent integration.""You can get data from any data source with SSIS and dump it to any outside source. It is helpful. Getting, extracting, converting, and dumping data doesn't require much effort because we can do everything in the user interface. You drag and drop, then give the required input. It's intuitive.""The workflow features have been very valuable. You can have automated workflows and all the steps are controlled. The workflow functionality of integration services is excellent.""The most valuable feature of SSIS is that it can handle real complex transformations.""It has good data integration and good processes.""The performance is good."

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"The solution is very user-friendly and easy to understand.""The most valuable feature is integration.""The basic tools are easy to pick up and understand.""The solution can run on any machine and that is a big advantage.""The features that I like the most are the simplicity of the interface, and the ability to quickly develop with a predefined component.""The availability of connectors is great.""I like everything about this product, but the biggest thing is the ease of use.""I think Talend is one of the easiest tools for faster implementation compared to other tools."

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Cons
"I would like to see support for some additional cloud sources. It doesn't support Azure, for example. I was trying to do a PoC with Azure the other day but it seems they don't support it.""The product needs more plugins.""I was not happy with the Pentaho Report Designer because of the way it was set up. There was a zone and, under it, another zone, and under that another one, and under that another one. There were a lot of levels and places inside the report, and it was a little bit complicated. You have to search all these different places using a mouse, clicking everywhere... each report is coded in a binary file... You cannot search with a text search tool...""Some of the scheduling features about Lumada drive me buggy. The one issue that always drives me up the wall is when Daylight Savings Time changes. It doesn't take that into account elegantly. Every time it changes, I have to do something. It's not a big deal, but it's annoying.""Since Hitachi took over, I don't feel that the documentation is as good within the solution. It used to have very good help built right in.""In terms of the flexibility to deploy in any environment, such as on-premise or in the cloud, we can do the cloud deployment only through virtual machines. We might also be able to work on different environments through Docker or Kubernetes, but we don't have an Azure app or an AWS app for easy deployment to the cloud. We can only do it through virtual machines, which is a problem, but we can manage it. We also work with Databricks because it works with Spark. We can work with clustered servers, and we can easily do the deployment in the cloud. With a right-click, we can deploy Databricks through the app on AWS or Azure cloud.""I would like to see improvements made for real-time data processing.""The performance could be improved. If they could have analytics perform well on large volumes, that would be a big deal for our products."

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"Sometimes when we want to publish to other types of databases it's not easy to publish to those databases. For example, the Jet Database Engine. Before the SSIS supported Jet Database Engine but nowadays it doesn't support the Jet Database Engine. We connect to many databases such as Access database, SparkPros databases and the other types of databases using Jet Database Engines now and SSIS now doesn't seem to support it in our databases.""The solution should work on the GPU, graphical processing unit. There should also be piping integration available.""A change in the metadata source cripples the whole ETL process, requiring each module to be manually reopened.""We In upgrading SSIS, we encountered challenges fixing SQL Server and performance issues, including problems during a failover in our data warehouse.""I would like to see better integration with Power BI.""You have to write push down join & lookup SQL to the database yourself via stored procedures or use of the SQL Task to get very high performance. That said, this is a common complaint for nearly all ETL tools on the market and those that offer an alternative such as Informatica offer them at a very expensive add-on price.""The solution could improve by having quicker release updates.""There were some issues when we tried to connect it to data storage. It was a connection issue."

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"The documentation from version to version could be more accurate.""The product must enhance the data quality.""The sales and market department could improve the Talend Data Management Platform.""The stability is good, but the performance is slower when I work on a huge amount of data.""I think they should drive toward AI and machine learning. They could include a machine-learning algorithm for the deduplication.""We'd like to see more connectors it the future.""Performance and speed could be improved.""I've had some issues with bugs causing crashes, especially when making changes to the system or with the monthly upgrades to Studio they've introduced."

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Pricing and Cost Advice
  • "There is a good open source option (Community Edition)​."
  • "The price of the regular version is not reasonable and it should be lower."
  • "Sometimes we provide the licenses or the customer can procure their own licenses. Previously, we had an enterprise license. Currently, we are on a community license as this is adequate for our needs."
  • "It does seem a bit expensive compared to the serverless product offering. Tools, such as Server Integration Services, are "almost" free with a database engine. It is comparable to products like Alteryx, which is also very expensive."
  • "I think Lumada's price is fair compared to some of the others, like BusinessObjects, which is was the other thing that I used at my previous job. BusinessObject's price was more reasonable before SAP acquired it. They jacked the price up significantly. Oracle's OBIEE tool was also prohibitively expensive."
  • "When we first started with it, it was much cheaper. It has gone up drastically, especially since Hitachi bought out Pentaho."
  • "The cost of these types of solutions are expensive. So, we really appreciate what we get for our money. Though, we don't think of the solution as a top-of-the-line solution or anything like that."
  • "The pricing has been pretty good. I'm used to using everything open-source or freeware-based. I understand that organizations need to make sure that the solutions are secure, and that's basically where I hit a roadblock in my current organization. They needed to ensure that we had a license and we had a secure way of accessing it so that no outside parties could get access to our data, but in terms of pricing, considering how much other teams are spending on cloud solutions or even their existing solutions, its price point is pretty good. At this time, there are no additional costs. We just have the licensing fees."
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  • "This solution has provided an inexpensive tool, and it is easy to find experienced developers."
  • "My advice is to look at what your configuration will be because most companies have their own deals with Microsoft."
  • "This solution is included with the MSSQL server package."
  • "It would be beneficial if the solution had a less costly cloud offering."
  • "Based on my experience and understanding, Talend comes out to be a little bit expensive as compared to SSIS. The average cost of having Talend with Talend Management Console is around 72K per region, which is much higher than SSIS. SSIS works very well with Microsoft technologies, and if you have Microsoft technologies, it is not really expensive to have SSIS. If you have SQL Server, SSIS is free."
  • "We have an enterprise license for this solution."
  • "It comes bundled with other solutions, which makes it difficult to get the price on the specific product."
  • "All of my clients have this product included as part of their Microsoft license."
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  • "License renewal is on a yearly basis."
  • "The pricing is a little higher than what I had expected, but it's comparable with I-PASS competitors."
  • "The solution's pricing is very reasonable and half the cost of Informatica."
  • "The licensing cost is about 40,000 Euros a year."
  • "The price of the Talend Data Management Platform is reasonable. The other competing solutions are priced high. Gartner Magic Quadrant identified other solutions, such as Informatica, that are far more expensive."
  • "The price is on a per-user basis. It's a little more expensive than other tools. There aren't any additional costs beyond the standard licensing fee."
  • "The tool is cheap."
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    Comparison Review
    Anonymous User
    Technology has made it easier for businesses to organize and manipulate data to get a clearer picture of what’s going on with their business. Notably, ETL tools have made managing huge amounts of data significantly easier and faster, boosting many organizations’ business intelligence operations There are many third-party vendors offering ETL solutions, but two of the most popular are PowerCenter Informatica and Microsoft SSIS (SQL Server Integration Services). Each technology has its advantages but there are also similarities on how they carry out the extract-transform-load processes and only differ in terminologies. If you’re in the process of choosing ETL tools and PowerCenter Informatica and Microsoft SSIS made it to your shortlist, here is a short comparative discussion detailing the differences between the two, as well as their benefits. Package Configuration Most enterprise data integration projects would require the capacity to develop a solution in one platform and test and deploy it in a separate environment without having to manually change the established workflow. In order to achieve this seamless movement between two environments, your ETL technology should allow the dynamic update of the project’s properties using the content or a parameter file or configuration. Both Informatica and SSIS support this functionality using different methodologies. In Informatica, every session can have more than one source and one or more destination connections. There are… Read more →
    Answers from the Community
    RajneeshShukla
    AThiré - PeerSpot reviewerAThiré
    User

    There are two products I know about
    * TimeXtender : Microsoft based, Transformation logic is quiet good and can easily be extended with T-SQL , Has a semantic layer that generates metat data for cubes . price approx 40K$, works with tables
    . Attunity (Bought by Qlik) : technology agnostic , nice web interface , expensive > 100K€. Works with transaction logs

    There are many other pure ETL tools
    * ERWIN has a nice one ,

    Phil Wilkins - PeerSpot reviewerPhil Wilkins (Capgemini)
    Consultant

    Depends upon the technologies being used. If you're using Oracle for both OLTP and OLAP then you'll get a lot of value from an Oracle solution.


    The other question is how up to date do you want your OLAP DB to be? Goldengate is a good answer if you're looking to minimize latency, but it can be expensive. ODI is less expensive but better suited to bulkier data sets.  If an Oracle product wasn't the option I'd probably consider something like Informatica.

    Karoly Krokovay - PeerSpot reviewerKaroly Krokovay
    Real User

    Hi Rajneesh,
    yes here is the feature comparison between the community and enterprise edition : www.hitachivantara.com

    And a short description of the community edition: www.predictiveanalyticstoday.com

    And the download link: community.hitachivantara.com

    You can ask more from the great community: forums.pentaho.com

    Regards
    Károly

    Stefan Schäfer - PeerSpot reviewerStefan Schäfer
    User

    We usually use Talend.
    Look here: community.talend.com

    GaryM - PeerSpot reviewerGaryM
    Real User

    As someone mentioned, if you're purely Oracle shop and staying that way then there's value with prioritizing Oracle tools.  However, let me contrast that with this caveat...


    Consider expectations for tool and vendor longevity. Oracle has a long history of retiring and/or replacing tools leaving customers in the cold with prior versions/tools (I've been burned multiple times by Oracle product retirements or replacements including OWB, Oracle Designer2k, Oracle Express, Oracle OEDW, their purchase of Sagent ETL which as later abandoned).


    But I would also consider these questions and relative prioritization:  


    What is your organization's plans for moving to other database technologies?  


    Where is your org going with on-prem versus cloud solutions?  How important are PaaS versus IaaS solutions?  


    Where is your current staff's expertise?  


    Prioritize mature over immature tools. 


    How many sources do you have?  What are their technologies and does the integration tool support them?


    Is it just moving data from a single ERP such as Oracle EBS to Olap? When you say Olap what do you mean by that?  Are you talking Oracle Olap product or something else?  That makes a really big difference of course - if your ETL tool doesn't support your source(s) and target(s) then it shouldn't be considered.


    Given the industry's trajectory, I myself would highly prioritize PaaS solutions over others.

    Yeap Jiun Aing - PeerSpot reviewerYeap Jiun Aing
    Real User

    What is the OLAP that you are using? Hosted in Cloud or on-premise? 


    The target DB should have its tool to extract data.

    Efe Dagistanli - PeerSpot reviewerEfe Dagistanli
    User

    Pentaho is a really nice tool if opensource is the only option. 


    Please think about issues such as upgrade and disaster in the future. These operations are very easy in Pentaho.


    I can only suggest one thing for replication and that is Qlik. (ex-Attunity).

    RajneeshShukla - PeerSpot reviewerRajneeshShukla
    Real User

    Hi Karoly, Thanks for your input. community: forums.pentaho.com is not allowing new registrations for new users. I guess they accept queries from customers only and not from any one. Do you know any other forum, community, SMEs contacts who can help on queries?

    Questions from the Community
    Top Answer:Hi Rajneesh yes here is the feature comparison between the community and enterprise edition :… more »
    Top Answer: In my opinion, the reporting side of this tool needs serious improvements. In my previous company, we worked with… more »
    Top Answer:My company has used this product to transform data from databases, CSV files, and flat files. It really does a good job… more »
    Top Answer:SSIS PowerPack is a group of drag and drop connectors for Microsoft SQL Server Integration Services, commonly called… more »
    Top Answer:The product's deployment phase is easy.
    Top Answer:If you don't want to pay a lot of money, you can go for SSIS, as its open-source version is available. When it comes to… more »
    Top Answer:We can develop our own code if we do not see the functionality we need.
    Top Answer:The vendor successfully created a cloud solution. However, lifting and shifting all the functionality available… more »
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    Overview

    Pentaho Data Integration stands as a versatile platform designed to cater to the data integration and analytics needs of organizations, regardless of their size. This powerful solution is the go-to choice for businesses seeking to seamlessly integrate data from diverse sources, including databases, files, and applications. Pentaho Data Integration facilitates the essential tasks of cleaning and transforming data, ensuring it's primed for meaningful analysis. With a wide array of tools for data mining, machine learning, and statistical analysis, Pentaho Data Integration empowers organizations to glean valuable insights from their data. What sets Pentaho Data Integration apart is its maturity and a vibrant community of users and developers, making it a reliable and cost-effective option. Pentaho Data Integration offers a range of features, including a comprehensive ETL toolkit, data cleaning and transformation capabilities, robust data analysis tools, and seamless deployment options for data integration and analytics solutions, making it a go-to solution for organizations seeking to harness the power of their data.

    SSIS is a versatile tool for data integration tasks like ETL processes, data migration, and real-time data processing. Users appreciate its ease of use, data transformation tools, scheduling capabilities, and extensive connectivity options. It enhances productivity and efficiency within organizations by streamlining data-related processes and improving data quality and consistency.

    Talend offers robust data integration in an open and scalable architecture to maximize its value to your business. Simple, graphical tools and wizards get you up and running quickly with native code generation that streamlines development.
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