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"For an internal project, this is a solution that you can install and have up and running quite quickly.""We are documenting all of the processors and VPN. Then we are sharing it with our business users.""I've found the active community most valuable but it also provides you with a lot of other features.""The most valuable feature is the ability to share the logic within the rules engine with the business, so you can put it up for everybody to read.""When I compare it with other BPM tools, like IBM, it is great, open source, and free when you use the community version.""The solution is easily compatible with HTML forms and HTML language programming and that is the most significant part.""The speed and execution of DMN was a big selling point for us. It's very good at conducting business processes that are easily modeled and presented in a way that's easy to understand.""It allows me to present or to demonstrate the business process flow, visually, without having to resort to PowerPoint, Visio, or other products."

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"This solution is very stable.""This solution has streamlined our operation and improved the TAT of sales, operations, and underwriters.""Good user interface and good add option.""The solution offers great notifications.""I like the APIs and the BPM coach is a good tool. But if I had to pick one, it would be the API.""This tool is very useful when it comes to enterprise-grade automation and governmental processes for the security aspects, performance, and reliability.""One of the reasons for adopting this solution ten years ago was its ease of use. It had a lot of off-the-shelf functionality, and it did not need to be developed specifically for the project that we were implementing. That was the main reason for adopting it in the beginning.""This product does the job in terms of executing the workflow."

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"The GUI needs to be improved, with more configuration options.""When you search for Camunda BPM resources or books on how to utilize Camunda BPM, it is lacking. When it comes to Alfresco, there are thousands of resources that can help you to utilize within AWS and its Group Services. I would like to see the usage of Camunda BPM on Amazon Web Services be improved.""I would say that Camunda should actually focus on small cases as well. There's a lot of space out there, for small businesses. If they can, they should cater to them.""I would like to see the forms engine available in the open-source version of this solution.""I would like to have a feature for audit logging, audit logs and audit log management. And some history of use for the audit logs.""I would also like a very easy to use form builder.""Especially when you use the open-source version, there are issues with performance.""If there were some industry templates it would have helped significantly, because it is similar to a process map for a domain. That is what we are currently creating, a domain-relevant process map."

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"We care about technology and support because support is very important and a BPM is not easy to implement.""Could increase vulnerability and security patches to make it more robust.""Finding errors and bugs on the system is not easy. We can't seem to use the events or logs to find them, so it makes it difficult to debug the system. They really need to work on their debugging features to make is much, much easier. It would improve the solution considerably and should be something they add in a future release.""The debugging needs improvement. There is some confusion surrounding the debugging.""Importing and exporting between multiple environments is more difficult with other tools.""IBM BPM lacks openness, that is, the ability to become open for new options in terms of APIs, front-end development, and ecosystem. IBM BPM has been quite closed. One of the main improvements would be to somehow embed the rules engine into IBM BPM. Merging IBM BRMS and the rules engine with IBM BPM would be helpful. If there was some simpler way to define rules without having to put IBM BRMS on top of it, it would be good. It's something that we can get out of Camunda but not out of IBM BPM.""Our developers are complaining that it's too complex to maintain.""Patching is required every three months and a major upgrade every two years, which should be optional."

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"We are using the open-source version of this solution.""Camunda is much cheaper.""I use the open-source free version.""The open-source version of the product is free to use.""The cost of this solution is better than some competing products.""Licensing costs are anywhere from $80,000 to $100,000 USD per year.""We use the open-source version, which can be used at no cost.""I think Camunda BPM can improve their licensing costs. It isn't easy to find clients with Camunda BPM licenses mainly because it's quite expensive."

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"It should provide more flexibility to connect with external systems, and there should be in-built services that can be used to integrate with other systems quickly.""The price is quite inflated, and I think that our service contract is per year with monthly fees.""Its price is on the higher side, and it can be improved. Its licensing is on a yearly basis. There are no additional costs.""IBM could improve the price. It is far too expensive.""I wish it was less expensive. I don't know why their pricing model is so high for a piece of software that could benefit so many. It just seems to me that they could have a lower cost, maybe with fewer features or whatever, but it should be possible to do a lower cost workflow software that uses the same interface and underlying engine but does not cost so much that you have to be a Fortune 50 company to buy it. It is annoying to me. There are a lot of solutions that IBM has that are really powerful but nobody can afford them. They know their business, but I still feel that there are a lot of customers who would benefit from this sort of thing. I don't know what this elitism is all about. I am sure they have people doing the money numbers, but it seems like you can make a lot more money by selling it to way more people for a little bit less.""When considering the features of the solution the price is expensive compared to competitors."

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Answers from the Community
Leandro Cruz
author avatarPiotr Mazur
Real User

Hi Leandro,


those two BPM's shouldn't be compared on the functional level. They are different type of solutions. 


Camunda offers the workflow engine and decission engine, where you can create process models according to BPMN and DMM standards. This gives you the flexibility and agility in the process management. It also gives you the tools to monitor, manage and optimize those processes.


Camunda provides very limited functionalities, if it comes to end user interfaces. Usually they are built as custom applications or existing application are used. With Camunda projects you always focus on automation, that requires system integration and custom development and usually concerns core business processes.


Camunda is an openAPI solution, which makes the integration fast and easy. It is a common situation in financial industry, that you have many systems, that need to be integrated in one process, that is why Camunda is so popular in this sector.

Before you decide on the switch, you have to consider the processes you want to use it for. If this is for standard processes like holiday requests, invoice approvals etc. Camunda is not the best option. But if you want to automate sales or after sales processes, client/partner onboarding, claims management, debt collection you should definitely consider Camunda.

I found once in Camunda documents an interesting comparison between Camunda and BPM suites:


"On a blank canvas, an artist can paint a picture in exactly the way he imagines. Alternatively, there is the principle of “painting by numbers”, where even the artistic layman can create stunning images by coloring in predetermined areas. However, they can only create what was already pre-designed."


And finally, Camunda is available as open source solution and there is no vendor lock.


I hope it helped ;-) There is always an option to have a talk...


Cheers,


Piotr

author avatarBirendra Agarwal
User

Me too

Questions from the Community
Top Answer: The Camunda BPMN Platform is very flexible and gives several options to deploy and scale it.
Top Answer: There is an open-source version available, that in its core features (workflow and decision engine, modeler) is exactly the same as in the enterprise version. My advice is to think about what is most… more »
Top Answer: In the future, I would definitely like to see the process administration (migration, audit, tracking) and process evaluation (optimize) features added to the community edition. Right now, thanks to… more »
Top Answer: IBM BPM is both scalable and stable.
Top Answer: The price and the overall installation process could be improved.
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WebSphere Lombardi Edition, IBM Business Process Manager, IBM WebSphere Process Server
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Reinventing Process Automation for the Digital Enterprise

Our process automation platform enables tens of thousands of developers to design, automate and improve processes and provide better customer experiences, deliver projects faster and increase business agility.

A complete process automation tech stack with powerful execution engines for BPMN workflows and DMN decisions paired with essential applications for modeling, operations and analytics

IBM Business Process Manager is a comprehensive BPM platform giving you visibility and insight to manage business processes. It scales smoothly and easily from an initial project to a full enterprise-wide program harnesses complexity in a simple environment to better meet customer needs.
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Sample Customers
AT&T Inc., Allianz Indonesia, Deutsche WertpapierService Bank AG, CSS Insurance, Provinzial NordWest Insurance Services, VHV Group, freenet Group, Swisscom AG, Zalando SE, Accruent
Barclays, EmeriCon, Banca Popolare di Milano, CST Consulting, KeyBank, KPMG, Prolifics, Sandhata Technologies Ltd., State of Alaska, Humana S.A., Saperion, esciris, Banco Espirito Santo
Top Industries
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Financial Services Firm27%
Comms Service Provider20%
Non Profit13%
Government13%
VISITORS READING REVIEWS
Computer Software Company26%
Comms Service Provider19%
Financial Services Firm12%
Government6%
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Financial Services Firm62%
Insurance Company18%
Computer Software Company6%
Non Tech Company3%
VISITORS READING REVIEWS
Computer Software Company29%
Financial Services Firm18%
Comms Service Provider18%
Insurance Company7%
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REVIEWERS
Small Business52%
Midsize Enterprise19%
Large Enterprise29%
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Small Business14%
Midsize Enterprise27%
Large Enterprise59%
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Small Business24%
Midsize Enterprise8%
Large Enterprise68%
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Small Business7%
Midsize Enterprise33%
Large Enterprise60%
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Camunda Platform is ranked 1st in Business Process Management with 20 reviews while IBM BPM is ranked 6th in Business Process Management with 20 reviews. Camunda Platform is rated 8.0, while IBM BPM is rated 7.6. The top reviewer of Camunda Platform writes "Component reusability saves us development time, but the learning curve is too steep". On the other hand, the top reviewer of IBM BPM writes "A very stable and powerful tool for handling lots of concurrent users, but it is expensive, and the Eclipse-based tool has performance issues when you have a lot of developers". Camunda Platform is most compared with Apache Airflow, Bonita, Pega BPM, Bizagi and Appian, whereas IBM BPM is most compared with IBM Business Automation Workflow, Pega BPM, Apache Airflow, ARIS BPM and Appian. See our Camunda Platform vs. IBM BPM report.

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