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We performed a comparison between BMC Data Management for IMS and DB2 on zOS and Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics based on real PeerSpot user reviews.

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"BMC Data Management improved our data recovery process by simplifying it.""I have worked with DB2's great features in the last five years. The IDAA feature transformed the vision of warehousing, business analytics, and big data at my bank. Besides the mainframe, I saw that this solution was evolutionary. It gives real-time information."

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"We're using the PDI and the repository function, and they give us the ability to easily generate reporting and output, and to access data. We also like the ability to schedule.""The abstraction is quite good.""The amount of data that it loads and processes is good.""The fact that it's a low-code solution is valuable. It's good for more junior people who may not be as experienced with programming.""Flexible deployment, in any environment, is very important to us. That is the key reason why we ended up with these tools. Because we have a very highly secure environment, we must be able to install it in multiple environments on multiple different servers. The fact that we could use the same tool in all our environments, on-prem and in the cloud, was very important to us.""Provides a good open source option.""This solution allows us to create pipelines using a minimal amount of custom coding.""Its drag-and-drop interface lets me and my team implement all the solutions that we need in our company very quickly. It's a very good tool for that."

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Cons
"One area for improvement with this product could be in providing clearer guidance and tools for disaster recovery planning and execution.""DB2 is a hard tool to grasp. It's hard for users to learn how to use it. It's not easy to see how it works."

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"The web interface is rusty, and the biggest problem with Pentaho is debugging and troubleshooting. It isn't easy to build the pipeline incrementally. At least in our case, it's hard to find a way to execute step by step in the debugging mode.""It could be better integrated with programming languages, like Python and R. Right now, if I want to run a Python code on one of my ETLs, it is a bit difficult to do. It would be great if we have some modules where we could code directly in a Python language. We don't really have a way to run Python code natively.""I have been facing some difficulties when working with large datasets. It seems that when there is a large amount of data, I experience memory errors.""I would like to see more improvements with AS400 DB2.""Parallel execution could be better in Pentaho. It's very simple but I don't think it works well.""It's not very stable, at least not in the case of the community edition. I'm working with the community edition right now and I think perhaps it is because of that it is not very stable, it causes the system to sometimes hang. I'm not sure if this is the case for pair tiers.""The performance could be improved. If they could have analytics perform well on large volumes, that would be a big deal for our products.""The product needs more plugins."

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  • "There is a good open source option (Community Edition)​."
  • "The price of the regular version is not reasonable and it should be lower."
  • "Sometimes we provide the licenses or the customer can procure their own licenses. Previously, we had an enterprise license. Currently, we are on a community license as this is adequate for our needs."
  • "It does seem a bit expensive compared to the serverless product offering. Tools, such as Server Integration Services, are "almost" free with a database engine. It is comparable to products like Alteryx, which is also very expensive."
  • "I think Lumada's price is fair compared to some of the others, like BusinessObjects, which is was the other thing that I used at my previous job. BusinessObject's price was more reasonable before SAP acquired it. They jacked the price up significantly. Oracle's OBIEE tool was also prohibitively expensive."
  • "When we first started with it, it was much cheaper. It has gone up drastically, especially since Hitachi bought out Pentaho."
  • "The cost of these types of solutions are expensive. So, we really appreciate what we get for our money. Though, we don't think of the solution as a top-of-the-line solution or anything like that."
  • "The pricing has been pretty good. I'm used to using everything open-source or freeware-based. I understand that organizations need to make sure that the solutions are secure, and that's basically where I hit a roadblock in my current organization. They needed to ensure that we had a license and we had a secure way of accessing it so that no outside parties could get access to our data, but in terms of pricing, considering how much other teams are spending on cloud solutions or even their existing solutions, its price point is pretty good. At this time, there are no additional costs. We just have the licensing fees."
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    Questions from the Community
    Top Answer:BMC Data Management improved our data recovery process by simplifying it.
    Top Answer:One area for improvement with this product could be in providing clearer guidance and tools for disaster recovery planning and execution. As someone involved in managing infrastructure, understanding… more »
    Top Answer:From my perspective as an infrastructure guy, the most valuable aspect of BMC's data management solutions was their ability to optimize CPU cycles, improving IMS performance without directly impacting… more »
    Top Answer:Hi Rajneesh yes here is the feature comparison between the community and enterprise edition :… more »
    Top Answer: In my opinion, the reporting side of this tool needs serious improvements. In my previous company, we worked with Hitachi Lumada Data Integration and while it does a good job for what it’s worth, it… more »
    Top Answer:My company has used this product to transform data from databases, CSV files, and flat files. It really does a good job. We were most satisfied with the results in terms of how many people could use… more »
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    Also Known As
    BMC Data Management for IMS and DB2 on z/OS, Data Management for IMS and DB2 on z/OS
    Hitachi Lumada Data Integration, Kettle, Pentaho Data Integration
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    Overview

    Transform the management of your DB2 databases to meet the scale and complexity of digital business

    • Run DB2 utilities with BMC Next Generation Technology to optimize your data and improve application performance
    • Eliminate downtime and increase availability of business services
    • Ensure the integrity of structured and unstructured data
    • Take control with intelligent automation and policy-driven rules
    • Bridge the gap from green-screen to modern, secure, self-service user interfaces
    • Move to DB2 12 and beyond with confidence

    Pentaho Data Integration stands as a versatile platform designed to cater to the data integration and analytics needs of organizations, regardless of their size. This powerful solution is the go-to choice for businesses seeking to seamlessly integrate data from diverse sources, including databases, files, and applications. Pentaho Data Integration facilitates the essential tasks of cleaning and transforming data, ensuring it's primed for meaningful analysis. With a wide array of tools for data mining, machine learning, and statistical analysis, Pentaho Data Integration empowers organizations to glean valuable insights from their data. What sets Pentaho Data Integration apart is its maturity and a vibrant community of users and developers, making it a reliable and cost-effective option. Pentaho Data Integration offers a range of features, including a comprehensive ETL toolkit, data cleaning and transformation capabilities, robust data analysis tools, and seamless deployment options for data integration and analytics solutions, making it a go-to solution for organizations seeking to harness the power of their data.

    Sample Customers
    Airline Tariff Publishing Co (ATPCO), AtTask, MetaScale
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    Top Industries
    VISITORS READING REVIEWS
    Financial Services Firm27%
    Insurance Company13%
    Government11%
    Manufacturing Company6%
    REVIEWERS
    Healthcare Company19%
    Financial Services Firm19%
    Comms Service Provider11%
    Manufacturing Company11%
    VISITORS READING REVIEWS
    Financial Services Firm19%
    Computer Software Company14%
    Comms Service Provider12%
    Government7%
    Company Size
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    Small Business20%
    Midsize Enterprise5%
    Large Enterprise76%
    REVIEWERS
    Small Business27%
    Midsize Enterprise31%
    Large Enterprise42%
    VISITORS READING REVIEWS
    Small Business21%
    Midsize Enterprise11%
    Large Enterprise68%
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    BMC Data Management for IMS and DB2 on zOS is ranked 21st in Database Development and Management with 2 reviews while Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics is ranked 16th in Data Integration with 48 reviews. BMC Data Management for IMS and DB2 on zOS is rated 8.6, while Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics is rated 8.0. The top reviewer of BMC Data Management for IMS and DB2 on zOS writes "Improves disaster recovery processes and offers an efficient CPU cycle optimization ". On the other hand, the top reviewer of Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics writes "It's flexible and can do almost anything I want it to do". BMC Data Management for IMS and DB2 on zOS is most compared with AWS Database Migration Service, Qlik Replicate, IBM App Connect and Dataloader.io, whereas Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics is most compared with Azure Data Factory, SSIS, Talend Open Studio, Oracle Data Integrator (ODI) and AWS Glue.

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