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"We're consolidating two to three arrays down to one which means that our data center footprint has decreased by like 90%. So we're saving 90% of our space, and it also is much better on power and everything else in our data center. And on top of that, the performance is much, much better than our older arrays.""The most valuable feature is the performance and compression. The most useful tool is CloudIQ.""The smaller footprint of the device has been really nice. We have gone from eight bays to one bay. Having one floor tile in our data center has been pretty awesome. A lot less power and HVAC cooling is being consumed.""Uptime by far is the most important thing, and also the replication ability (SRDF). Most of the customers who need this type of availability also want the protection of multiple data centers, and it is able to easily switchover workloads to their other data centers.""It significantly simplifies storage.""The compression and deduplication are the most valuable features because of the cost savings.""Enterprise Cloud Storage is the most valuable feature, along with the data services which come with it, plus the deduplication and compression.""My storage engineers are very happy with PowerMax. They are very pleased with the performance, decreased latency, and dependability. From the team, the RESTful API makes management so much easier for them versus the command line interface."

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"The features that I found most valuable are SnapMirror and SnapVault; these provide DR and backup for data redundancy.""The valuable features are the fabric pool. We are taking our cold data and pumping it straight into an estuary bucket. Also, efficiency. We're getting about two and a half times upwards of data efficiency through compaction, compression, deduplication, and it's size. When we refreshed from two or three racks of spinning discs down into 5U of rack space, it not only saved us a whole heap of costs in our data center environment but also it's nice to be green. The power savings alone equated to be about 50 tons of CO2 a year that we no longer emit. It's a big game changer.""Tech support has been absolutely amazing. I think on the technical aspects as well, my staff is able to get great support from the NetApp technical support resources that we have. What I love about NetApp is they have a health care division. At times, it's such an amazing thing because if we have a healthcare-related issue, there's no one better than having prior CIOs from health care organizations that NetApp has hired, and that are part of the health care team, to help out with any of those initiatives and support problems. Support has been absolutely phenomenal.""This solution has reduced our data center costs because when we went from the 8000 and 3200 series that took us from 20 racks of storage down to two.""The solution’s thin provisioning has allowed us to add new applications without having to purchase additional storage. We use thin provisioning for everything. We use the deduplication compression functionality for all of our NetApps. If we weren't using thin provisioning, we'd probably have two to times more storage on our floor right now than we do today.""The most valuable features of this solution are the deduplication and the ability to move data to different clouds.""The most valuable features of this solution are snapshotting and cloning.""The overall latency in our environment is very low because it's All Flash and we've got 10 Giga dedicated to the storage network"

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"We've had a couple of little things come up, but for the most part, they've been pretty stable.""There are definitely some improvements that can be made to the CloudIQ.""I hear from people on my team that they would like improved reporting. While there are some decent tools for doing reporting, they would like to see a lot more built-in functionality. This way when they are logged into the interface everyday doing basic management tasks, they could also see some statistics on what is their storage pool usage and will be their projected usage with their current data growth. They want to be able to see more detailed stats on how they are using the system and have forecasting.""There is some room to grow, especially with some of the installation quirks.""Since the merging of EMC and Dell into Dell Technologies, there has been a hurdle that they've had to overcome, and they're not over it yet. It takes two to three times longer for things to get fixed than it did when they were separate companies. That is something that has to be fixed.""We are very interested in NVMe over Fibre Channel, which I understand is on the horizon. We would like to see that come to fruition.""I would like them to continue improving the management tools and continue moving towards a RESTful API versus CLI.""They should work with the storage engineers to better tweak the management tools to give them improved visibility into their data."

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"I would like to see an improvement in the high availability of the NFS and CIFS sharing during upgrade and patching; this would help to avoid downtime.""I would like for them to develop the ability to detach the fabric pool. Once you've added it to an aggregate it's there for life and it would be nice to disconnect it if we ever had to.""The total cost of ownership has increased a little.""We would like to have NVMe on FabricPool working because it broke our backups. We enabled FabricPool to do the tiering from our AFFs to our Webscale but it sort of broke our Cobalt backups.""Something I've talked to NetApp about in the past is going more to a node-based architecture, like the hyper-converged solutions that we are doing nowadays. Because the days of having to buy massive quantities of storage all at one time, have changed to being able to grow in smaller increments from a budgetary standpoint. This change would be great for our business. This is what my leadership would like to see in a lot of things that they purchase now. I would like to see that architecture continue to evolve in that clustered environment.""It would be very useful if we could do the NFS to CIFS file transfer, but it is not supported at this time.""The cost of this solution should be reduced.""It has not reduced our data center costs. NetApp charges a pretty penny for their stuff."

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"Our costs for the product are three million.""From reclaiming data center space which is so tightly constrained these days, it will pay for itself in a short amount of time, which is fantastic. Anything we can do to get more out of our current physical data center space helps us a ton, and PowerMax has helped enable that.""Our costs are on a yearly basis.""It scales enormously, but it's expensive to do so.""From a general capital investment, it's one of the higher price points in the market. It depends on the size and software features that you would include in a system. So, the cost varies dramatically.""The cost has room for improvement.""The cost is expensive. While VMAX now has good pricing, PowerMax is a little expensive.""We hope that with the combination of both NVMe and SCM the next PowerMax will be much cheaper that the one which we acquired."

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"The pricing is good.""It consolidates a lot of our storage into one or two chassis, which makes money savings in our data center.""We have used the solution’s thin provisioning to add new applications without having to purchase additional storage. We use thin provisioning on all of our flash arrays at this point. It gives us the choice to be able to overprovision and take advantage of compression, compaction, and thin provisioning all at the same time. We can get more out of the purchases that we make.""I would like it to be a lot less expensive, but it's been a very good solution for us.""The price of the upgrading of the solution is high. I could buy a whole unit of All Flash FAS 300 with a shelf for around $285,000. Yet if I want to add one additional shelf, it'll cost me $275,000. So they want you to upgrade by replacing it. It's cheaper to buy a whole new unit than to just scale out. The upside is they last. AFF lasts us three or four years. So that's a good investment.""It definitely reduces costs because it simply takes less power to run these systems. While the SSDs don't take power, they are in general very big right now. So, the running cost has decreased for a lot of our customers.""We benefited from implementing all-flash by reducing our data center footprint. We took it from 30 racks to just over five. This is one of the biggest savings for us.""One of the reasons we like this solution is that all of the features are included with the one license."

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Top Answer: Many insightful answers already provided. I would just add the following based on my experience. With so many employees an located in different places, its important for you to list the issues… more »
Top Answer: The optimization of the cache memory of each engine and the use of persistent memory.
Top Answer: We hope that with the combination of both NVMe and SCM the next PowerMax will be much cheaper that the one which we acquired. Grab performance I/O, and analyze it for better sizing and costing.
Top Answer: Well, Is one thing NetApp Storage has vs other brand is the mix of protocol CIFS with NFS booth working together in the same volume that features is difficult to find in other Storage but the… more »
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Dell EMC PowerMax is the world’s fastest storage array. It delivers new levels of performance and efficiency with a future-proof architecture that features end-to-end non-volatile memory express (NVMe) and a built-in machine learning engine. PowerMax is built on the comprehensive functionality and proven resiliency of Dell EMC’s flagship storage platform. It is designed for six-nines of availability and offers data-at-rest encryption (D@RE), massive scalability, and best-in-class data protection with Symmetrix Remote Data Facility (SRDF), the gold standard in remote replication.

NetApp AFF8000 All Flash FAS systems combine all-flash performance with unified data management from flash to disk to cloud.  Leverage the Data Fabric to move data securely across your choice of clouds—enabled by Cloud ONTAP™ and NetApp Private Storage for Cloud. Plus, you get the industry’s most efficient and comprehensive integrated data protection suite, on premises or in the cloud.

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Dell EMC PowerMax NVMe is ranked 1st in NVMe with 31 reviews while NetApp AFF (All Flash FAS) is ranked 2nd in All-Flash Storage Arrays with 42 reviews. Dell EMC PowerMax NVMe is rated 8.8, while NetApp AFF (All Flash FAS) is rated 9.0. The top reviewer of Dell EMC PowerMax NVMe writes "The compression and deduplication are the most valuable features because of the cost savings". On the other hand, the top reviewer of NetApp AFF (All Flash FAS) writes "Good price to performance ratio, no latency, and simple to use". Dell EMC PowerMax NVMe is most compared with Dell EMC PowerStore, Dell EMC Unity XT, IBM FlashSystem, Dell EMC XtremIO and Huawei OceanStor Dorado, whereas NetApp AFF (All Flash FAS) is most compared with Dell EMC Unity XT, Pure Storage FlashArray, Lenovo ThinkSystem DM Series, HPE Nimble Storage and HPE Primera.

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