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We performed a comparison between erwin Data Modeler by Quest and iGrafx Process360 Live Platform based on real PeerSpot user reviews.

Find out in this report how the two Business Process Design solutions compare in terms of features, pricing, service and support, easy of deployment, and ROI.
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Pros
"The solution’s code generation ensures accurate engineering of data sources, as there is no development time. Code doesn't even have to be reviewed. We have been using this solution for so long and all the code which has been generated is accurate with the requirements. Once we generate the DDLs out of the erwin tools, the development team does a quick review of the script line by line. They will just be running the script on the database and looking into other requirements, such as the index. So, there is less effort from development side to create tables or build a database.""We had some data integration projects, where we needed to integrate it for about 100 databases. Doing that manually is crazy; we can't do that. With erwin, it was much easier to identify which tables and columns could be used for the integration. That means a lot in terms of time and effort as well as my image to the customer, because they can see that we are providing value in a very short time.""The solution's ability to compare and synchronize data sources with data models is fantastic. We use it for that on a regular basis to make sure that changes haven't been made to the database outside of the modeling process. I can take existing databases and reverse engineer them and understand their structure within 15 minutes. If I didn't have Data Modeler it would take hours. It increases our productivity and helps in understanding our legacy application.""The product lets us import different types of models from various databases.""The ability to collaborate between different members across the organization is the most valuable feature. It gives us the ability to work on the same model, regardless of where we are physically.""Any tool will do diagramming but I think the ability to put the stuff up in a graphical fashion, then think about it, and keep things consistent is what's valuable about it. It's too easy when you're using other methods to not have naming consistent standards and column consistent definitions, et cetera.""The solution is good for organizing the data and the scripting part is very powerful. It's easy to create technical scripts for models.""It allows us to create logical data models. We can represent a database model in business terms, which is very useful for us."

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"Simulation is most valuable.""Another good feature is that the numbering of the shapes in iGrafx is much easier and more convenient, in comparison to what is found in Visio. So far I haven't found anything similar to what I have with iGrafx, in that regard.""We found the technical support to be helpful.""It has simplified compliance with regulations and company standards.""This product fulfills ninety percent of our needs, and we're happy as users of it.""Provides a valuable BPMN feature.""The solution's technical support is of good quality since they offer fast and seamless services.""The solution is very stable."

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Cons
"The erwin ETL functionality has room for improvement when it comes to mapping databases with a classic entity-relationship model to a data warehouse model.""It does not have a cloud application.""There is a lack of local support in the China region.""I would like to see improved reporting and, potentially, dashboards built on top of that. Right now, it's a little manual. More automated reporting and dashboard views would help because currently you have to push things out to a spreadsheet, or to HTML, and there aren't many other options that I know of. I would like to be able to produce graphs and additional things right in the tool, instead of having to export the data somewhere else.""One of the things I've been talking to the erwin team about through the years is that every data model should have the ability to be multi-language... When I was working at Honda, it became very difficult to work with the Japanese teams using just one model. You can have two models, one in English and one in Japanese, but that means you have to keep the updates back and forth, and that always increases the risk of something not being updated.""I would like to see more support for working with the big-data world. There are so many new databases evolving and it's very hard for them to keep up with all of the new technologies. It would be good if they were able to dynamically support big-data platforms, other than Hive and Teradata.""This is a very complex product.""The Bulk Editor needs improvement. If you had something that was a local model to your local machine, you could connect to the API, then it would write directly into the repository. However, when you have something that is on the centralized server, that functionality did not work. Then, you had to export out to a CSV and upload up to the repository. It would have been nice to be able to do the direct API without having that whole download and upload thing. Maybe I didn't figure it out, but I'm pretty sure that didn't work when it was a model that sat on a centralized repository."

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"I would love to see a template and shapes for customer journey mapping.""The look and feel, along with the ease of use of the solution's web modeling version, is an area with certain shortcomings.""It would be helpful to be able to do more analytics and generate reports on historical documents that have already been uploaded to the server.""Dragging and dropping shapes is not as user-friendly as in Visio. In Visio, it's very easy to work with shapes and in very few minutes you can plot a whole, multi swim-lane, cross-functional process.""It would be nice to have a Spanish user interface available to us.""With iGrafx, the implementation and the licensing were pretty complex.""In the next release, I would like to see more layers like three, four, and five. It might be possible but I haven't seen it yet.""The solution could benefit from improvements to its interface. More specifically, when compared to other tools, the process modeling features lack symbols or object types that are used to represent the information or data within the process."

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Pricing and Cost Advice
  • "The primary reasons that erwin was selected were that it was much more affordable for us [than Embarcadero] and it was easily maintainable."
  • "This company had bought the license for three years, and it's not an individual license. While you can buy a license for each individual, that would be very expensive. There is something called concurrent licenses where you can purchase licenses in bulk and 15 to 20 people can access the license and model. Concurrent licenses are scalable to the number of users and are proportional to the cost."
  • "An issue right now would be that erwin doesn't have a freely available browser (that I am aware of) for people who are not data modelers or data engineers that a consumer could use to look at the data models and play with it. This would not be to make any changes, but just to visually look at what exists. There are other products out there which do have end user browsers available and allow them to access data models via the data modeling tool."
  • "The price should be lower in order to be on the same level as its competitors."
  • "I wish it wasn't so expensive. I would love to personally buy a copy of my own and have it at home, because the next job that I'm looking at is probably project management and I might not have access to the tool. I would like to keep my ability to use the tool. Therefore, they should probably have a pricing for people like me who want to just use the solution as an independent consultant, trying to get started. $3,000 is a big hit."
  • "There are no costs in addition to the standard licensing fees."
  • "I don't specifically know what we're paying now. About three years ago, in another organization, I have this memory of 6,000 AUD a seat or something like that, but I am not sure. In the mid-2000s, it was something like 1,200 AUD a seat. I get the impression that there was a price jump when it was spun off from CA as a separate company, which is understandable, but it could sometimes be a barrier in some organizations picking it up. I haven't talked to erwin people yet, but I'm going to suggest to them that they could perhaps think of having an entry-level product that is priced a bit lower, and then, you can buy the extra suite."
  • "The price of erwin Data Modeler is very expensive, in particular for this part of the world."
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  • "My company is trying to replace iGrafx because the license is a little bit expensive."
  • "Our license is a subscription-based model that is per user. The solution is not expensive, I believe a subscription-based model is $10 per user."
  • "The licensing part is one of the problems. Its licensing depends on the number of users, so it sometimes gets expensive."
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    Questions from the Community
    Top Answer:Forward engineering, DDL generation, reverse engineering, and reporting are the most valuable features of the solution.
    Top Answer:The solution's model mark could be better because it crashes sometimes.
    Top Answer:The solution's technical support is of good quality since they offer fast and seamless services.
    Top Answer:I’m not sure of the exact pricing. However, I would describe their costs as mid-tier.
    Top Answer:The look and feel, along with the ease of use of the solution's web modeling version, is an area with certain shortcomings. The web modeling part can be a bit complex or difficult for new users of the… more »
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    erwin DM
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    Overview

    erwin pioneered data modeling, and erwin Data Modeler (erwin DM) remains trusted, award-winning software for data modeling and database design, automating complex and time-consuming tasks. Use it to discover and document any data from anywhere for consistency, clarity and artifact reuse across large-scale data integration, master data management, metadata management, Big Data, business intelligence and analytics initiatives – all while supporting data governance and intelligence efforts.

    The iGrafx Process360 Live Platform is a comprehensive software platform tailored for organizations undergoing digital transformation. Its core functionalities include process mining, process design, simulation, predictive analytics, and AI-based automation. By leveraging these tools, businesses can gain valuable insights into their processes, streamline design and optimization efforts, and harness automation for enhanced efficiency. Whether analyzing existing processes, visually modeling workflows, simulating potential changes, or employing predictive analytics, Process360 Live facilitates a seamless journey towards process intelligence and management, pivotal for modern businesses aiming for operational excellence.

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    Financial Services Firm28%
    Insurance Company21%
    Government14%
    Energy/Utilities Company7%
    VISITORS READING REVIEWS
    Financial Services Firm19%
    Government10%
    Computer Software Company9%
    Manufacturing Company8%
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    Consumer Goods Company30%
    Comms Service Provider20%
    Pharma/Biotech Company10%
    Government10%
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    Financial Services Firm25%
    Computer Software Company9%
    Government7%
    Manufacturing Company6%
    Company Size
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    Small Business33%
    Midsize Enterprise7%
    Large Enterprise60%
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    Small Business16%
    Midsize Enterprise10%
    Large Enterprise74%
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    Small Business29%
    Midsize Enterprise29%
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    Small Business18%
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    Large Enterprise74%
    Buyer's Guide
    erwin Data Modeler by Quest vs. iGrafx Process360 Live Platform
    March 2024
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    erwin Data Modeler by Quest is ranked 9th in Business Process Design with 37 reviews while iGrafx Process360 Live Platform is ranked 15th in Business Process Design with 15 reviews. erwin Data Modeler by Quest is rated 8.6, while iGrafx Process360 Live Platform is rated 8.4. The top reviewer of erwin Data Modeler by Quest writes "The product lets users import different types of models, but it is expensive, and the interface must be improved". On the other hand, the top reviewer of iGrafx Process360 Live Platform writes " A reasonably stable BPM solution useful for process governance and process mining". erwin Data Modeler by Quest is most compared with SAP PowerDesigner, IDERA ER/Studio, Visio, Lucidchart and Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect, whereas iGrafx Process360 Live Platform is most compared with Visio, ARIS BPA, SAP Signavio Process Manager, Camunda and Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect. See our erwin Data Modeler by Quest vs. iGrafx Process360 Live Platform report.

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