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"The speed and execution of DMN was a big selling point for us. It's very good at conducting business processes that are easily modeled and presented in a way that's easy to understand.""It allows me to present or to demonstrate the business process flow, visually, without having to resort to PowerPoint, Visio, or other products.""It has an open BPM""The interface and the number of connectors that they provide are the most valuable features. The support here, it's kind of okay. But the main thing is with the number of connectors and the UI, the user interface.""Being able to use a Java-based solution makes the product flexible.""The best feature is the automation.""The most valuable feature is the scheduling.""Ease of use and ability to streamline a process model."

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"We use erwin Evolve to publish to the website. This allows us to enable publishing our website using parameterisation features. In a very fast, quick way, we can publish a table or chart onto a website.""I can send images in the PDF form, along with the relationships and the associations that are a very important part of what we do. It can show what is affected and what is impacted by a certain change in one area of the system architecture or enterprise architecture. I can very quickly draw those issues and topics to the fore.""I have not seen capabilities for web-sharing and interaction with the architecture from any other supplier. It's a great capability...""By placing the data and the metadata into a model, which is what the tool does, you gain the abilities for linkages between different objects in the model, linkages that you cannot get on paper or with Visio or PowerPoint. That is a huge discriminator.""There is a model behind it. It's really nice that the Evolve front-end, as it builds a website, keeps those relationships in mind. You can even go to a procedure and see all the applications that are related to it. Then you can go into that application and see all the standard operating procedures that that application is a part of. It's just very connected.""One of the most valuable features is the website that sits on top of the database. There's a database of objects and how they are related, and you can make views and diagrams and visual elements out of that information on the website. The website is the part that is called Evolve and we use the Evolve Designer and publish the website out to our employees. They can click around and navigate and search, etc.""The feature that stands out for me is the ease of configuring objects and the screens to show them. It's really easy to add a new type of object in this reference. Creating a new type of object, using it, and evolving it a little bit in terms of what we can document about it are the main features that made us decide to use this provider.""I really liked that it mapped out processes and was able to attach the data model to the appropriate process. You could map out the process, then when you got down to a specific couple of data elements, you could attach the table in the database that supported that process. You could connect it with erwin Data Modeler for that."

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"The most valuable feature is the ability to quickly build multiple layers within the organizational and business process environments, as well as in the SysML product environments, and converting to files that can be accessed by clients who do not have a system and a teamwork server access.""The technical support is very good.""When you look at it, No Magic is an all-encompassing tool. You can use it for business architecture design. You can use it for deploying an ERP system across your enterprise. However, it was initially designed and developed for model-based systems engineering. That's the systems engineering required to either produce an IP system or product. It takes away the mounds of paper and puts it into a model. It enables you to generate significant savings by modeling that new product or that system before you ever start developing a prototype.""The most valuable feature is the amount of flexibility that one has to model, which is great for an individual.""The most valuable features are the visibility, standard compliance, and interface.""I would rate MagicDraw a nine out of ten because of the price. Enterprise Architect has a lot of bugs and MagicDraw is a lot more accurate and flexible. It's a level better.""The beauty of MagicDraw is that it has a simulation part, so you can simulate your model to validate it. The simulation allows you to bring in code off of an external code that you can write to set up the simulation and execute the code.""The MBFC capability of MagicDraw is higher than the other competitors."

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"Especially when you use the open-source version, there are issues with performance.""If there were some industry templates it would have helped significantly, because it is similar to a process map for a domain. That is what we are currently creating, a domain-relevant process map.""Lacking in forms visualization.""The support definitely can be improved. Apart from that, the language should be extendable to other platforms. If I want to write, I'll run a different platform, like Python code on top of it, or COBOL code on top of it, and it should support those languages.""The solution could use some enhancements like adding connectors, improving forms and having a mobile app, but everything is an enhancement rather than a flaw.""The only drawback is the time that it takes to have a complete set of workflows implemented on the Camunda platform.""The initial set up could be simplified, it's complex.""Process interfaces between diagrams could be improved."

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"The way that we are using it for application management, we have several KPIs. We want to follow and monitor them regarding a number of solutions. We cannot calculate this today. We would like real-time calculations along with the KPIs in order to improve the user experience. We would like the tool to be able to display this, not only as signals, but as charts.""The solution's integration capabilities with other tools in our system has not been all that well done. We have people who use ARIS, who use System Architect and, of course, Visio. erwin has very limited ways to import and export from those kinds of tools. It's not a very easy thing to do.""With the Excel importing, the "up to date" part is the challenge. If we had a real-time integration, we could keep things up to date for whatever kinds of change points we had. With Excel, it is more that you have to export from one system then import it to another, so it's better for data that doesn't change that often.""I would like it to be easier to make changes and then deploy them into production, especially when you have multiple web servers or front-ends. It would be nice to make a change and then have it propagate to the production servers in a more automated fashion.""What they need to do is to consolidate more of their products. For example, I was just looking and I couldn't figure out what erwin DT is. It's on the website but it would help if they could put information together and make it more clear as to what products they have and how they work with other things.""They have improved the search engine a little bit but it can always be improved more. The more data you put inside it, the more you want to use it.""It could have had a more streamlined navigation. It seemed that when you went to the explorer panel, there were just so many different ways of doing the work that I could not remember, "How did I do this? How did I get to that point in that model to get back to it?" If I wanted to build a new one, where do I start? It just seemed like there was such a smorgasbord of ways of doing it that it was just overwhelming."

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"I would like to see the ability to deploy live business process models and capture real-time data (without the need for another product tool) so you don't have to be dependent on other products for this functionality.""The cost of upgrading the product should be lower.""There's lots of documentation. They process multiples of guides. They've got all kinds of guides and documentation out there, but it's kind of hard to find. There are a lot of videos. You can go to YouTube and find videos on how it's been used in different ways, but it just kind of scratches the surface.""When I am working with my Mac and I right-click to copy and paste, it doesn't work.""It's very focused on specific modern languages and it doesn't do necessarily general systems software engineering with diagrams. They should expand the diagram types for the languages.""The licenses are expensive compared to similar tools. At the moment, the user is open to using MagicDraw if it's 15% more than other solutions. If it were to cost any more, they wouldn't use it.""For the next releases, I would like to have them import requirements from other sources. They could make it very easy to do that because there are a lot requirements management tools like DOORS, D-O-O-R-S, Dynamic Object Oriented Management. A lot of folks use DOORS to create a requirement. For those requirements you allocate them to a component in the architecture and a verification method for that requirement. It would be good if we could import those into MagicDraw as components so you don't have to manually do these things.""The documentation for MagicDraw and the video tutorials compared to other competitors is an area for improvement."

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"I use the open-source free version.""The open-source version of the product is free to use.""The cost of this solution is better than some competing products.""Licensing costs are anywhere from $80,000 to $100,000 USD per year.""We use the open-source version, which can be used at no cost.""I think Camunda BPM can improve their licensing costs. It isn't easy to find clients with Camunda BPM licenses mainly because it's quite expensive.""When compared with the proprietary products, the pricing costs are much less, even though it is an enterprise edition.""There is an open-source version available, that in its core features (workflow and decision engine, modeler) is exactly the same as in the enterprise version."

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"On a yearly basis, our licensing costs are 50,000 euro. There are no additional costs because we are on a SaaS model.""The cost is something like $15,000, per license. But I haven't looked at those numbers in three years. It was over $100,000 to initially set everything up and get it all configured.""The licensing enables you to differentiate between people who edit the content and the people who consume it. We are able to keep the licensing costs down by keeping the "contributor" licenses to a minimum, and we then just roll out the content in a read-only version for the rest of our users.""I estimate that we pay between $40,000 and $50,000 a year for the solution, not including the upfront costs to buy things the first time.""Yearly, our cost is €100,000."

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"In addition to the initial cost, you have to pay annually for support in order to get the upgrades.""I would say licensing would be anywhere from $3,500 to $6,500 per person or per seat (it's a per seat style license).""The licensing is on a yearly basis, and it's expensive."

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erwin EA, erwin Business Process, erwin Enterprise Architecture
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Overview

Camunda Platform is a complete process automation tech stack with powerful execution engines for BPMN workflows and DMN decisions paired with essential applications for modeling, operations, and analytics.

With a clear vision to automate any process, anywhere, Camunda is reinventing process automation for the digital enterprise. Featuring a developer-friendly, open source approach, enterprises can use Camunda Platform to breakthrough technological, organizational, and infrastructure barriers, optimize their business processes, and drive their digital transformation initiatives forward.

erwin is used by more than 50,000 professionals in 60+ countries to get big results from their enterprise data initiatives. erwin is the #1 choice in virtually every industry, from government and healthcare to retail and finance.

erwin Modeling provides a collaborative environment to manage enterprise data through an intuitive, graphical interface. With a centralized view of key data definitions, you can leverage information as a strategic asset and more efficiently manage your data resources to save time and money.

MagicDraw is the award-winning business process, architecture, software and system modeling tool with teamwork support. Designed for Business Analysts, Software Analysts, Programmers, QA Engineers, and Documentation Writers, this dynamic and versatile development tool facilitates analysis and design of Object Oriented (OO) systems and databases.
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24 Hour Fitness, Accruent, Allianz Indonesia, AT&T Inc., Atlassian, CSS Insurance, Deutsche Telekom, Generali, Provinzial NordWest Insurance Services, Swisscom AG, U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs, VHV Group, Zalando
AT&T, Bank of America, Chevron, Duke University, ESPN, Fidelity, GE, JP Morgan Chase, KPMG, McGraw Hill, NASA, Pfizer, Royal Bank of Scotland, Teradata, Union Pacific, Vodafone, Wells Fargo.
Northrop Grumman, Labcorp, Deposco, ClearView Training, IT Services Promotion Agency, Intelligent Chaos, Metalithic Systems Inc., Sodifrance
Top Industries
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Financial Services Firm24%
Computer Software Company24%
Comms Service Provider18%
Non Profit12%
VISITORS READING REVIEWS
Computer Software Company27%
Comms Service Provider17%
Financial Services Firm11%
Government7%
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Comms Service Provider13%
Financial Services Firm13%
Computer Software Company13%
Recruiting/Hr Firm13%
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Computer Software Company28%
Comms Service Provider10%
Government9%
Financial Services Firm8%
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Computer Software Company21%
Manufacturing Company16%
Comms Service Provider14%
Government14%
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Small Business53%
Midsize Enterprise22%
Large Enterprise25%
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Small Business17%
Midsize Enterprise25%
Large Enterprise58%
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Small Business24%
Midsize Enterprise12%
Large Enterprise65%
VISITORS READING REVIEWS
Small Business2%
Midsize Enterprise4%
Large Enterprise95%
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Small Business77%
Midsize Enterprise8%
Large Enterprise15%
Find out what your peers are saying about No Magic MagicDraw vs. erwin Evolve and other solutions. Updated: September 2021.
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erwin Evolve is ranked 8th in Business Process Design with 7 reviews while No Magic MagicDraw is ranked 10th in Business Process Design with 9 reviews. erwin Evolve is rated 7.8, while No Magic MagicDraw is rated 7.8. The top reviewer of erwin Evolve writes "Enables us to present data and objects visually, in diagrams, and to make them available via the web". On the other hand, the top reviewer of No Magic MagicDraw writes "I like the simulation part, so you can simulate your model to validate it". erwin Evolve is most compared with IDERA ER/Studio, SAP PowerDesigner, Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect, LeanIX and Avolution ABACUS, whereas No Magic MagicDraw is most compared with Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect, Visio, Visual Paradigm, Lucidchart and iServer. See our No Magic MagicDraw vs. erwin Evolve report.

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