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"We have a lot of users, almost 1,800, and we needed something affordable, stable and something that could be used by a large financial company. This solution truly fit the bill.""For an internal project, this is a solution that you can install and have up and running quite quickly.""We are documenting all of the processors and VPN. Then we are sharing it with our business users.""I've found the active community most valuable but it also provides you with a lot of other features.""The number of client implementations and cross-language capabilities to support multiple frameworks is very pluggable compared to Pega. It's also more portable.""The most valuable feature is the ability to share the logic within the rules engine with the business, so you can put it up for everybody to read.""When I compare it with other BPM tools, like IBM, it is great, open source, and free when you use the community version.""The solution is easily compatible with HTML forms and HTML language programming and that is the most significant part."

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"The most valuable features for us are impact analysis, where I can easily visualize the impact of change.""The initial setup was really straightforward and the deployment was done within one day.""The ability to share and collaborate on the solution is its most valuable feature.""We use erwin Evolve to publish to the website. This allows us to enable publishing our website using parameterisation features. In a very fast, quick way, we can publish a table or chart onto a website.""I can send images in the PDF form, along with the relationships and the associations that are a very important part of what we do. It can show what is affected and what is impacted by a certain change in one area of the system architecture or enterprise architecture. I can very quickly draw those issues and topics to the fore.""I have not seen capabilities for web-sharing and interaction with the architecture from any other supplier. It's a great capability...""By placing the data and the metadata into a model, which is what the tool does, you gain the abilities for linkages between different objects in the model, linkages that you cannot get on paper or with Visio or PowerPoint. That is a huge discriminator.""There is a model behind it. It's really nice that the Evolve front-end, as it builds a website, keeps those relationships in mind. You can even go to a procedure and see all the applications that are related to it. Then you can go into that application and see all the standard operating procedures that that application is a part of. It's just very connected."

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"The most valuable feature is the ability to quickly build multiple layers within the organizational and business process environments, as well as in the SysML product environments, and converting to files that can be accessed by clients who do not have a system and a teamwork server access.""The most valuable features are the workflow, the workflow drawing, block diagrams, and team sharing, where everyone can work together.""The technical support is very good.""When you look at it, No Magic is an all-encompassing tool. You can use it for business architecture design. You can use it for deploying an ERP system across your enterprise. However, it was initially designed and developed for model-based systems engineering. That's the systems engineering required to either produce an IP system or product. It takes away the mounds of paper and puts it into a model. It enables you to generate significant savings by modeling that new product or that system before you ever start developing a prototype.""The most valuable feature is the amount of flexibility that one has to model, which is great for an individual.""The most valuable features are the visibility, standard compliance, and interface."

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"If Camunda could develop something that creates user forms that would be a great feature to have. They also need to improve the UI.""The GUI needs to be improved, with more configuration options.""When you search for Camunda BPM resources or books on how to utilize Camunda BPM, it is lacking. When it comes to Alfresco, there are thousands of resources that can help you to utilize within AWS and its Group Services. I would like to see the usage of Camunda BPM on Amazon Web Services be improved.""I would say that Camunda should actually focus on small cases as well. There's a lot of space out there, for small businesses. If they can, they should cater to them.""The user interface needs improvement. It should be more tailored to the end-user and offer a better user experience design over the user interface itself.""I would like to see the forms engine available in the open-source version of this solution.""I would like to have a feature for audit logging, audit logs and audit log management. And some history of use for the audit logs.""I would also like a very easy to use form builder."

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"I feel that the UML drawing capability needs to be improved.""I would like to see an improvement in the output of the solution.""The solution needs to focus on allowing for more integrations.""The way that we are using it for application management, we have several KPIs. We want to follow and monitor them regarding a number of solutions. We cannot calculate this today. We would like real-time calculations along with the KPIs in order to improve the user experience. We would like the tool to be able to display this, not only as signals, but as charts.""The solution's integration capabilities with other tools in our system has not been all that well done. We have people who use ARIS, who use System Architect and, of course, Visio. erwin has very limited ways to import and export from those kinds of tools. It's not a very easy thing to do.""With the Excel importing, the "up to date" part is the challenge. If we had a real-time integration, we could keep things up to date for whatever kinds of change points we had. With Excel, it is more that you have to export from one system then import it to another, so it's better for data that doesn't change that often.""I would like it to be easier to make changes and then deploy them into production, especially when you have multiple web servers or front-ends. It would be nice to make a change and then have it propagate to the production servers in a more automated fashion.""What they need to do is to consolidate more of their products. For example, I was just looking and I couldn't figure out what erwin DT is. It's on the website but it would help if they could put information together and make it more clear as to what products they have and how they work with other things."

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"I would like to see the ability to deploy live business process models and capture real-time data (without the need for another product tool) so you don't have to be dependent on other products for this functionality.""I have a technical issue in not knowing how to share the information with a client.""The cost of upgrading the product should be lower.""There's lots of documentation. They process multiples of guides. They've got all kinds of guides and documentation out there, but it's kind of hard to find. There are a lot of videos. You can go to YouTube and find videos on how it's been used in different ways, but it just kind of scratches the surface.""When I am working with my Mac and I right-click to copy and paste, it doesn't work.""It's very focused on specific modern languages and it doesn't do necessarily general systems software engineering with diagrams. They should expand the diagram types for the languages."

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Pricing and Cost Advice
"It is less cost-prohibitive than other solutions on the market. This solution was in our price range.""We are using the open-source version of this solution.""Camunda is much cheaper.""I use the open-source free version.""The open-source version of the product is free to use.""The cost of this solution is better than some competing products.""Licensing costs are anywhere from $80,000 to $100,000 USD per year."

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"On a yearly basis, our licensing costs are 50,000 euro. There are no additional costs because we are on a SaaS model.""The cost is something like $15,000, per license. But I haven't looked at those numbers in three years. It was over $100,000 to initially set everything up and get it all configured.""The licensing enables you to differentiate between people who edit the content and the people who consume it. We are able to keep the licensing costs down by keeping the "contributor" licenses to a minimum, and we then just roll out the content in a read-only version for the rest of our users.""I estimate that we pay between $40,000 and $50,000 a year for the solution, not including the upfront costs to buy things the first time.""Yearly, our cost is €100,000."

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"This solution is expensive.""In addition to the initial cost, you have to pay annually for support in order to get the upgrades.""I would say licensing would be anywhere from $3,500 to $6,500 per person or per seat (it's a per seat style license)."

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Questions from the Community
Top Answer: The speed and execution of DMN was a big selling point for us. It's very good at conducting business processes that are… more »
Top Answer: It's free, open-source. I use the open-source free version.
Top Answer: Hi dear knauf its pleasure to see you in a good position, you were always in the top of specialist. your advise and… more »
Top Answer: There is a model behind it. It's really nice that the Evolve front-end, as it builds a website, keeps those… more »
Top Answer: The licensing enables you to differentiate between people who edit the content and the people who consume it. We are… more »
Top Answer: I would like it to be easier to make changes in development/testing and then deploy them into production more easily… more »
Top Answer: The most valuable features are the visibility, standard compliance, and interface.
Top Answer: In addition to the initial cost, you have to pay annually for support in order to get the upgrades.
Top Answer: It's very focused on specific modern languages and it doesn't do necessarily general systems software engineering with… more »
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erwin EA, erwin Business Process, erwin Enterprise ArchitectureMagicDraw
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Overview

Camunda BPM is a light-weight, open source platform for Business Process Management. It is a perfect match for general software development and provides powerful business-IT-alignment based on BPMN for structured workflows, CMMN for less structured cases and DMN for business rules.

Typical use cases for Camunda BPM are:

  • Straight Through Processing (STP)
  • Human Workflow Management
  • (Dynamic) Case Management
  • Business Rule Automation

erwin is used by more than 50,000 professionals in 60+ countries to get big results from their enterprise data initiatives. erwin is the #1 choice in virtually every industry, from government and healthcare to retail and finance.

erwin Modeling provides a collaborative environment to manage enterprise data through an intuitive, graphical interface. With a centralized view of key data definitions, you can leverage information as a strategic asset and more efficiently manage your data resources to save time and money.

MagicDraw is the award-winning business process, architecture, software and system modeling tool with teamwork support. Designed for Business Analysts, Software Analysts, Programmers, QA Engineers, and Documentation Writers, this dynamic and versatile development tool facilitates analysis and design of Object Oriented (OO) systems and databases.
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Sample Customers
AT&T Inc., Allianz Indonesia, Deutsche WertpapierService Bank AG, CSS Insurance, Provinzial NordWest Insurance Services, VHV Group, freenet Group, Swisscom AG, Zalando SE, AccruentAT&T, Bank of America, Chevron, Duke University, ESPN, Fidelity, GE, JP Morgan Chase, KPMG, McGraw Hill, NASA, Pfizer, Royal Bank of Scotland, Teradata, Union Pacific, Vodafone, Wells Fargo.Northrop Grumman, Labcorp, Deposco, ClearView Training, IT Services Promotion Agency, Intelligent Chaos, Metalithic Systems Inc., Sodifrance
Top Industries
REVIEWERS
Financial Services Firm33%
Comms Service Provider25%
Non Profit17%
Government8%
VISITORS READING REVIEWS
Computer Software Company35%
Comms Service Provider17%
Financial Services Firm7%
Media Company6%
REVIEWERS
Insurance Company13%
Comms Service Provider13%
Financial Services Firm13%
Computer Software Company13%
VISITORS READING REVIEWS
Computer Software Company30%
Government10%
Comms Service Provider9%
Insurance Company9%
VISITORS READING REVIEWS
Computer Software Company34%
Comms Service Provider13%
Manufacturing Company9%
Government8%
Company Size
REVIEWERS
Small Business48%
Midsize Enterprise16%
Large Enterprise36%
VISITORS READING REVIEWS
Small Business11%
Midsize Enterprise20%
Large Enterprise69%
REVIEWERS
Small Business24%
Midsize Enterprise12%
Large Enterprise65%
REVIEWERS
Small Business89%
Midsize Enterprise11%
Find out what your peers are saying about No Magic MagicDraw vs. erwin Evolve and other solutions. Updated: September 2020.
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erwin Evolve is ranked 8th in Business Process Design with 10 reviews while No Magic MagicDraw is ranked 11th in Business Process Design with 6 reviews. erwin Evolve is rated 8.0, while No Magic MagicDraw is rated 8.0. The top reviewer of erwin Evolve writes "Enables us to present data and objects visually, in diagrams, and to make them available via the web". On the other hand, the top reviewer of No Magic MagicDraw writes "Great for model-based engineering with lots of excellent features and good technical support". erwin Evolve is most compared with IDERA ER/Studio, SAP PowerDesigner, Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect, ARIS BPM and Avolution ABACUS, whereas No Magic MagicDraw is most compared with Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect, Visio, Visual Paradigm, IBM System Architect and MEGA HOPEX. See our No Magic MagicDraw vs. erwin Evolve report.

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