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The most valuable features assist with understanding data formats and transforming data.Everything from the order to fulfillment to the payment process, except for physical packing and shipping, is fully automated for some customer orders.

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The solution's capabilities in fulfilling our existing B2B integration requirements are brilliant. Among our multiple customers we connect to SAP systems, JDE, all the various ERPs that you can possibly get, Oracle procurement systems, etc. We haven't come across anything yet — and customers are trying to trip us up — that we can't do.It has enabled digital business processes. It's the connection between our ERP system and the rest of the company. We were able to automate processing invoices digitally like an inbound invoice and FastPay payments.If SEEBURGER plans to do something, they will meet their target. We haven't been disappointed by them at all. For example, we had six trading partners to onboard and they said, "We'll make it happen," and they did make it happen. They did exactly what they said they would do. That's a really positive thing.I like that the tool has all the adapters — all the possible protocols that are in the industry. You pay for those adapters but at least it's all in one package. You don't have to get another tool or application to support another partner.When orders come in they go into our ERP system directly, so there is integration there.It's the reliability. And the message tracking is quite good, where we can go in and see if we have an issue.SEEBURGER Business Integration Suite (BIS) has been good at communicating between two applications, changing formats and using the required protocols... We can have one site communicating in an old FTP or SFTP style, or via file transfer. And with other applications, we could have API or a web service call or some other protocol used to send information.What would have been a manual process of transmitting data items around between us and third-parties has been automated. SEEBURGER BIS handles the automation and mapping side of the communications. The automation, along with the efficiency around time and cost, has improved our organization. Around 20,000 messages a month have been automated. These typically would be financial/order transactions and confirmations in invoicing that have been automated.

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Cons
The tool requires you to write a lot of code in Java and XSLT, which makes development tough.When working on an elaborate rule, I end up creating it in notepad and then pasting it into the Extended Rule window, which is not convenient.

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There are some aspects at the front, the actual queries that you use, that could be improved. They're all very minor to be honest.API connectivity needs improvement as well as the GUI. The GUI hasn't changed that much in 10 years, but of course, that's already been updated. I would say I'm excited about the screenshots but that's about it.It's rather difficult to understand, from the application, what's broken and why it doesn't work. We typically need to get support from them directly, and it's usually in a consulting role, to fix issues.There might be some improvements they could make to the portal, but they're not anything that stops me from working.We don't have much access to the logs or what's happening. So we have to log a ticket with SEEBURGER. We only get a message that something has failed... we have to open a ticket with SEEBURGER for them to tell us exactly what the issue is... I would like us to be able to be more self-sufficient.We wanted to use API. We were told that in 6.52 we could use API management. Later on, we found that API management wasn't that completely integrated into the 6.52 solution, and if you wanted to have the whole API suite you might have to go to 6.7, the latest one.The speed of development needs improvement. If you acquire any customization, it can be a slightly slow process. I would like to see more flexibility around customizations. The time frame right now depends on the sophistication and customization, but we have to go through a process of getting them to develop, implement, and test it. This might take a couple of weeks. If it was a simpler system to customize, the time could probably be cut by half or down by even 25 percent of what it would normally take.The BIS Front End needs a little bit of refreshing, especially when it comes to setting up new trading partners and trading partner agreements or transactions. It can be a bit clumsy to copy and rename and then go in and modify.

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Pricing and Cost Advice
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On an annual basis, our support costs, which are based on the licensing, are about £120,000.The only thing that would be an improvement would be if they had a cost model whereby you could just pay for what you're actually using. Even if it were a minimum monthly charge that they offered, if you're not utilizing all of that then they should consider a lower tier. That way, they could attract more business.We pay maintenance of between $75,000 and $100,000 per year, per box.There is a standard agreement for the messaging every month. But if we make a change request — a change to a mapping or something like that — then there is a fixed price per hour.We pay per message we use. We spend about £19,000 a year with them.The cost-based model is slightly different now in SEEBURGER Business Integration Suite (BIS). They changed the licensing, based on adapters and other things. In the old style of licensing, the whole suite was one license...Our licensing model is based on transactions. We have a base service contract which is priced against a volume of transactions and another volume of individual transactions, which are covered by one service agreement. Then, we have development services on top of that. Our annual spend is around £80,000. It's about mid-priced, as there are some cheaper alternatives out there and some more expensive ones. It's neither cheap nor expensive. It's somewhere in the middle.We have additional ad hoc development costs, but those vary depending on if we're bringing on another third-party into our systems via the EDI integration. So, that's highly variable.

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Questions from the Community
Top Answer: Everything from the order to fulfillment to the payment process, except for physical packing and shipping, is fully automated for some customer orders.
Top Answer: The improvements that need to be made are mostly little things. The Extended Rule windows in the mapper only have two settings: small window or full screen. When working on an elaborate rule, I end up… more »
Top Answer: We use the Windows version of this solution. It integrates with a proprietary, SQL-based ERP. It provides standard EDI using VAN, AS2, FTP, SFTP, HTTP. The full cycle from order to payment is covered… more »
Top Answer: If SEEBURGER plans to do something, they will meet their target. We haven't been disappointed by them at all. For example, we had six trading partners to onboard and they said, "We'll make it happen,"… more »
Top Answer: The only thing that would be an improvement would be if they had a cost model whereby you could just pay for what you're actually using. Even if it were a minimum monthly charge that they offered, if… more »
Top Answer: For the area that we've used them for so far, I don't really see any way that they can make it easier. I can't say enough about how they have delivered exactly what they said that they would, and for… more »
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Also Known As
IBM Sterling B2B Integrator, Sterling Gentran Integration SuiteSeeburger Business Integration Suite
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Overview

IBM B2B Integrator helps you securely integrate complex B2B processes with your partner communities. It provides a single, flexible B2B gateway that enables your organization to meet a wide range of B2B integration needs. The solution can improve business processes beyond enterprise boundaries and increase visibility into and across supply and demand chains.

The SEEBURGER Business Integration Suite (BIS) is a central platform for all integration activities. It enables you to respond easily, rapidly and innovatively to your digital transformation challenges:

  • B2B integration: Network and integrate your company with any or all of your business partners.

  • API integration and API management: Establish a framework for networking all of your systems across companies in real-time.

  • Managed File Transfer (MFT) integration: Use secure and simple mechanisms for standardized intra- and cross-company data exchange processes and data integration.

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Sample Customers
Bonnie Plants, Toshiba Europe, Florida HospitalAltis, Autoliv, Cebi, Cofresco
Top Industries
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Financial Services Firm21%
Transportation Company16%
Energy/Utilities Company11%
Logistics Company11%
VISITORS READING REVIEWS
Computer Software Company47%
Comms Service Provider12%
Retailer8%
Media Company7%
REVIEWERS
Transportation Company25%
Retailer20%
Pharma/Biotech Company15%
Logistics Company10%
VISITORS READING REVIEWS
Computer Software Company44%
Non Profit7%
Retailer7%
Wholesaler/Distributor6%
Find out what your peers are saying about IBM B2B Integrator vs. SEEBURGER BIS and other solutions. Updated: September 2020.
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IBM B2B Integrator is ranked 4th in Business-to-Business Middleware with 3 reviews while SEEBURGER BIS is ranked 1st in Business-to-Business Middleware with 20 reviews. IBM B2B Integrator is rated 8.0, while SEEBURGER BIS is rated 8.4. The top reviewer of IBM B2B Integrator writes "Used to manage your trading partner's community and connections centrally. ". On the other hand, the top reviewer of SEEBURGER BIS writes "Enables any-to-any transformation from one data format to another". IBM B2B Integrator is most compared with Mule ESB, SAP Process Orchestration, IBM Sterling B2B Integration Services, Axway AMPLIFY B2B Integration and Mule Anypoint Platform, whereas SEEBURGER BIS is most compared with Mule ESB, IBM Sterling B2B Integration Services, OpenText Trading Grid, SAP Process Orchestration and Mule Anypoint Platform. See our IBM B2B Integrator vs. SEEBURGER BIS report.

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