We performed a comparison between Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics and Talend Data integration based on real PeerSpot user reviews.
Find out in this report how the two Cloud Data Integration solutions compare in terms of features, pricing, service and support, easy of deployment, and ROI."I can create faster instructions than writing with SQL or code. Also, I am able to do some background control of the data process with this tool. Therefore, I use it as an ELT tool. I have a station area where I can work with all the information that I have in my production databases, then I can work with the data that I created."
"We use Lumada’s ability to develop and deploy data pipeline templates once and reuse them. This is very important. When the entire pipeline is automated, we do not have any issues in respect to deployment of code or with code working in one environment but not working in another environment. We have saved a lot of time and effort from that perspective because it is easy to build ETL pipelines."
"Lumada has allowed us to interact with our employees more effectively and compensate them properly. One of the cool things is that we use it to generate commissions for our salespeople and bonuses for our warehouse people. It allows us to get information out to them in a timely fashion. We can also see where they're at and how they're doing."
"The solution has a free to use community version."
"The fact that it enables us to leverage metadata to automate data pipeline templates and reuse them is definitely one of the features that we like the best. The metadata injection is helpful because it reduces the need to create and maintain additional ETLs. If we didn't have that feature, we would have lots of duplicated ETLs that we would have to create and maintain. The data pipeline templates have definitely been helpful when looking at productivity and costs."
"We also haven't had to create any custom Java code. Almost everywhere it's SQL, so it's done in the pipeline and the configuration. That means you can offload the work to people who, while they are not less experienced, are less technical when it comes to logic."
"Provides a good open source option."
"Its drag-and-drop interface lets me and my team implement all the solutions that we need in our company very quickly. It's a very good tool for that."
"The product's integration with PostgreSQL and Jira has been helpful for us. Its performance is good. However, we do not use it for large data sets."
"We have multiple use cases for this solution. We integrate with Salesforce, SAP and Oracle databases to build business logic and provide reporting."
"Talend Data integration has a wide library of connectors."
"I'm very passionate about this solution because if you look at any other tool that costs around $200 - $300,000, like Delphix which costs you a million dollars, Talend is very cheap and is almost is at par with what others can do. There is one thing which Delphix does which Talend cannot do, but overall, I would say apart from that, if you're looking for a solution, you should give it a try."
"I could not connect to our Hadoop environment in an easy and flexible way, and it was important to scale our data warehouse."
"I would like to see improvements made for real-time data processing."
"I was not happy with the Pentaho Report Designer because of the way it was set up. There was a zone and, under it, another zone, and under that another one, and under that another one. There were a lot of levels and places inside the report, and it was a little bit complicated. You have to search all these different places using a mouse, clicking everywhere... each report is coded in a binary file... You cannot search with a text search tool..."
"As far as I remember, not all connectors worked very well. They can add more connectors and more drivers to the process to integrate with more flows."
"The testing and quality could really improve. Every time that there is a major release, we are very nervous about what is going to get broken. We have had a lot of experience with that, as even the latest one was broken. Some basic things get broken. That doesn't look good for Hitachi at all. If there is one place I would advise them to spend some money and do some effort, it is with the quality. It is not that hard to start putting in some unit tests so basic things don't get broken when they do a new release. That just looks horrible, especially for an organization like Hitachi."
"If you develop it on MacBook, it'll be quite a hassle."
"A big problem after deploying something that we do in Lumada is with Git. You get a binary file to do a code review. So, if you need to do a review, you have to take pictures of the screen to show each step. That is the biggest bug if you are using Git."
"The support for the Enterprise Edition is okay, but what they have done in the last three or four years is move more and more things to that edition. The result is that they are breaking the Community Edition. That's what our impression is."
"There are no concurrent licenses, they only have seat licenses on cloud. That's the whole challenge. For example, if in any project your headcount increases or decreases, you do not have that concurrence and you have a seat license, you run into challenges because you have to procure a few more licenses for getting the job done."
"Sometimes there are bugs which are unidentified and we have to follow-up with the Talend team to resolve them. In a critical situation, it takes time for them to update patches."
"The tool's technical support needs to be better. It doesn't have a local data center but pushes everything to the cloud. They need to check in with customers to see if they're happy and how well the solutions work. They need to assign a customer success manager for the accounts they sell."
"Due to using the open-source version of Talend Data Integration, which lacks a scheduler, our current approach involves developing jobs in Talend, exporting them as Java packages, and utilizing an external scheduler, such as Windows Scheduler, to manage the scheduling process."
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Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics is ranked 16th in Data Integration with 48 reviews while Talend Data integration is ranked 23rd in Cloud Data Integration with 4 reviews. Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics is rated 8.0, while Talend Data integration is rated 8.0. The top reviewer of Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics writes "It's flexible and can do almost anything I want it to do". On the other hand, the top reviewer of Talend Data integration writes "Very affordable and on par with much more expensive solutions". Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics is most compared with Azure Data Factory, SSIS, Talend Open Studio, Oracle Data Integrator (ODI) and AWS Glue, whereas Talend Data integration is most compared with Talend Open Studio, SAP Cloud Platform, Oracle Data Integrator (ODI), Microsoft Azure Logic Apps and AWS Glue. See our Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics vs. Talend Data integration report.
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There are two products I know about
* TimeXtender : Microsoft based, Transformation logic is quiet good and can easily be extended with T-SQL , Has a semantic layer that generates metat data for cubes . price approx 40K$, works with tables
. Attunity (Bought by Qlik) : technology agnostic , nice web interface , expensive > 100K€. Works with transaction logs
There are many other pure ETL tools
* ERWIN has a nice one ,
Depends upon the technologies being used. If you're using Oracle for both OLTP and OLAP then you'll get a lot of value from an Oracle solution.
The other question is how up to date do you want your OLAP DB to be? Goldengate is a good answer if you're looking to minimize latency, but it can be expensive. ODI is less expensive but better suited to bulkier data sets. If an Oracle product wasn't the option I'd probably consider something like Informatica.
Hi Rajneesh,
yes here is the feature comparison between the community and enterprise edition : www.hitachivantara.com
And a short description of the community edition: www.predictiveanalyticstoday.com
And the download link: community.hitachivantara.com
You can ask more from the great community: forums.pentaho.com
Regards
Károly
We usually use Talend.
Look here: community.talend.com
As someone mentioned, if you're purely Oracle shop and staying that way then there's value with prioritizing Oracle tools. However, let me contrast that with this caveat...
Consider expectations for tool and vendor longevity. Oracle has a long history of retiring and/or replacing tools leaving customers in the cold with prior versions/tools (I've been burned multiple times by Oracle product retirements or replacements including OWB, Oracle Designer2k, Oracle Express, Oracle OEDW, their purchase of Sagent ETL which as later abandoned).
But I would also consider these questions and relative prioritization:
What is your organization's plans for moving to other database technologies?
Where is your org going with on-prem versus cloud solutions? How important are PaaS versus IaaS solutions?
Where is your current staff's expertise?
Prioritize mature over immature tools.
How many sources do you have? What are their technologies and does the integration tool support them?
Is it just moving data from a single ERP such as Oracle EBS to Olap? When you say Olap what do you mean by that? Are you talking Oracle Olap product or something else? That makes a really big difference of course - if your ETL tool doesn't support your source(s) and target(s) then it shouldn't be considered.
Given the industry's trajectory, I myself would highly prioritize PaaS solutions over others.
What is the OLAP that you are using? Hosted in Cloud or on-premise?
The target DB should have its tool to extract data.
Pentaho is a really nice tool if opensource is the only option.
Please think about issues such as upgrade and disaster in the future. These operations are very easy in Pentaho.
I can only suggest one thing for replication and that is Qlik. (ex-Attunity).
Hi Karoly, Thanks for your input. community: forums.pentaho.com is not allowing new registrations for new users. I guess they accept queries from customers only and not from any one. Do you know any other forum, community, SMEs contacts who can help on queries?