CTO for Microsoft & Infrastructure Platforms at Amey
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The most valuable feature for us is the ease of 3PAR's scalability. The tech support structure is also not as clunky as with other organizations.

What is most valuable?

The most valuable feature for us is the ease of 3PAR's scalability. We have 330 different organizations within our company; we do anything and everything. That's why scalability of 3PAR is so important to us.

How has it helped my organization?

It provides us with on-demand service. For example, if we win a contract but don't have access to a service facility until midnight, we have to be able to "flood in" suddenly to keep the services running without any downtime. We have to be able to keep the systems running instantaneously and don't have the luxury of, say, a three-month provisioning or a new-chassis swap. So with 3PAR, we're able to provide on-demand service.

What needs improvement?

It needs to provide better customer visibility of what's going on. For example, having access to a customer's ticketing system if only on a real-time, read-only basis could be a perspective that's extremely helpful. It's important that we have clear and open lines of communications with our customers, and 3PAR doesn't provide that yet to meet our needs.

For how long have I used the solution?

I first got involved with 3PAR in 2006.

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What do I think about the stability of the solution?

We have a large number of HP storage products and 3PAR is by far the most stable. We do have a couple of clusters that have normal, standard discs, and these are so stable. We wanted something high-end, and that's why we went with 3PAR. If something goes wrong, we know it's not a hardware issue, but rather the software configuration that's running on it.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

I'm normally used to reaching the point of a system where you just can't expand it any further and need to do a step change, swapping out a base unit or something like that. With 3PAR, that problem doesn't exist -- you just keep adding to it and capacity grows in a nice, linear fashion. If I want to add just a terabyte, I don't have to add 100 terabytes. Expansion of 3PAR is very, very smooth.

How are customer service and support?

From an ownership perspective, I like the technical support HP provides because they're better engineers. The tech support structure is also not as clunky as with other organizations and there's a better spread of skill-sets amongst techs. So overall, technical support is pretty good.

What other advice do I have?

If you speak to your techies, as opposed to your managers, and ask them how easy it is for them to use and understand 3PAR, they'll say it gets a 10/10. The techies get it and they love it.

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Senior Systems Engineer with 1,001-5,000 employees
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Has helped us speed up deployments and better track our I/O consumption.

What is most valuable?

For the P10400, we didn’t license many of the features that would have made this product really shine. We bought it for its advertised scalability, active-active controller design, and uptime (non-disruptive upgrades, port virtualization, etc.). We have not upgraded its capacity, controller count, or connection count since we’ve bought it so the scalability piece really didn’t make much difference for us. The uptime piece, however, has been 100% since initial start-up which is great. Although we cannot service the unit ourselves, cage level availability and the support team that takes care of the InForm OS updates and failed hardware have made it a great array for simply servicing I/O with nothing fancy added in.

The 7400 array is where things really start to shine for us on products and features. We initially bought this array as a production replacement of a set of EVA’s for file services and VMWare. As such it was important to us to have a reliable array that would balance itself, and was easier to upgrade than the P10400. It needed to support new OS’s fairly quickly and also have non-disruptive upgrades. We put that to the test when we added our test environment to the array. In that upgrade, only six months after initial purchase, it was very important that we could keep our test I/O from disrupting the production environment, so priority optimization became an important feature. We added two controllers, and doubled the size of the array to accommodate our test environment, and did so without downtime. The priority optimization is a real-time QoS component of the array that can be changed without disruption and takes effect in seconds. The six fibre ports per controller allow me to segregate I/O streams from VMWare and Windows to keep from having queue length and buffer issues or to simply balance out I/O load.

How has it helped my organization?

3PAR, in general, has helped us speed up deployments and better track our I/O consumption. We are able to speed up deployments because we are no longer having to install a vendor specific DSM/MPIO on top of the Microsoft OS or Linux ones as we did with the EVA line. System reporter allows us a more in depth look at our I/O utilization patterns in an easy to gather and archive way.

What needs improvement?

Licensing is still a pain point. It has gotten better, as any spindle count based licensing is capped at a certain number of spindles depending on the model of the array, but it is still expensive as you must buy every feature. Many of the arrays available from competitors come with just one or two licenses to buy which cover the entire array no matter the spindle count. The arrays are also not very user serviceable, which is something I miss about the EVA. A field tech must come out to replace a drive which is something I could do myself with the EVA.

For how long have I used the solution?

I've used the P10400 for three years, and I would rate it 7/10. Alongside this, I've been using the 7400 for one and half years, and say it's 8/10.

Also, we are not currently using 3PAR flash storage but are planning an implementation. We are currently looking into flash to speed up our MS SQL for the logs and TempDB LUN’s. We are also looking into it as a possible future deployment for an as yet not deployed VDI implementation.

What was my experience with deployment of the solution?

We didn’t encounter any issues with deployment. The pre-deployment guides were comprehensive and prepared us well for actual deployment of the product.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

We have only expanded the 7400, doubling its size in disk and controller count, and did it without any issues.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

None yet.

How are customer service and technical support?

Customer Service:

High. We have “proactive” support, so many times they are calling me about issues before or right as I see the alerts. Our account support manager reviews our environment twice a year to discuss any issues we have had and any recommendations from HP on how the systems are performing.

Technical Support:

High. Updates to the InForm OS and firmware have gone off without incident. When something was wrong with the HBA ports resetting, they brought in additional resources from other areas to resolve it. The issue turned out to be a problem with the fibre channel switches fill word instead of the array.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

We were using HP EVA and direct attached storage. Our EVA’s were getting old and needed to be replaced within a year or two. The push to replace them sooner came after our main production array crashed due to LUN ownership issues between the controllers. A lot of I/O was coming into the non-owning controller and so it would switch ownership. Since ownership was set to fail-over/fail-back it would just keep hoping back and forth. It was a problem with VMWare losing its MPIO configuration but that caused major issues with the array. True Active-Active controller design really became an important criteria after this incident.

How was the initial setup?

Both. The v400 was a complex setup where the 7400 was much more straightforward. The v400 had many requirements for how cables were run, specific hole sizes and cuts in the raised floor tiles, and the installation guide that the HP Field Technicians used was either out of date or incorrect in several places causing installation to take longer than it should have. In contrast, the 7400 had none of the requirements, as it was mounted in a more traditional style rack and the installation process was more mature. The service processor could now be deployed as a VMWare appliance and set up by the customer ahead of time.

What about the implementation team?

We used a vendor team with in-house support where needed. The vendor team was much more knowledgeable on the 7400 installation than the v400. We had bought the v400 not long after HP acquired 3PAR so there were some issues there. However, the local installation team had a “quick” line into 3PAR support for installation so we weren’t waiting around for support to answer questions.

What was our ROI?

It was never calculated for these arrays outside of cost to buy new against the cost of continuing support of the existing arrays. It has been several years since we upgraded the class of array and type of support.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

The original setup was about $700,000 for the v400 and $350,000 for the 7400. The day to day cost is negligible in terms of support as they are really stable arrays.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

We evaluated the Hitachi VSP and Netapp FAS 6800.

What other advice do I have?

Do your homework and follow the deployment guides, it will save time and headaches. If you do not license at least Direct Optimization the array cannot re-level the data so the array will eventually not preform to peak efficiency as you add and remove data.

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Head of IT Department at Sonepar
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Good performance, proactive monitoring and support , and quick to deploy
Pros and Cons
  • "We never had a blackout and we have never been offline."
  • "The price of this solution should be lower."

What is our primary use case?

The StorServ is the main storage for our infrastructure. Our ERP system runs on it, as well as 15 other servers including Active Directory, synchronization servers, and more.

What is most valuable?

The performance is very good. This is a full-flash storage device and it is very quick.

HPE monitors each storage device and if there are any problems, such as an issue with a hard drive, the technical support will quickly and proactively contact us to change the part.

What needs improvement?

The price of this solution should be lower.

For how long have I used the solution?

We have been using our current HPE 3PAR for the past year and a half. For the previous six years, we had an older version of 3PAR storage.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

3PAR is a stable product. We have used the current device and an older version for more than seven years and although we had accidents with nodes and hard drives, it is high-availability storage. We never had a blackout and we have never been offline.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

With respect to the capacity, it is easy to add to. We just have to get more boxes with hard drives. We have quite a small environment so, in terms of scalability, it's okay for us. We have never needed to expand.

There are four of us who administer the 3PAR. I am an IT manager and I have three colleagues in my team.

How are customer service and support?

The technical support is tremendous.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

I have worked with other storage products from Dell, although that was more than ten years ago. The reason that we switched to HPE was the comparison between performance and price.

The 3PAR is high-level storage and at the time, it was cheaper than the competitors.

How was the initial setup?

The implementation was done by our partner and it took less than a day to complete. It was deployed within approximately five hours.

What about the implementation team?

The deployment was completed by a gold HPE partner. They delivered the storage devices in addition to the ESXi servers that we ordered.

Any maintenance that needs to be done, such as updating the firmware on the devices, is the responsibility of our external partner. We don't have experience in this field.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

This product is quite expensive and in addition, we subscribe to 24/7 support with a four-hour response time.

What other advice do I have?

HPE is a vendor that I recommend in general, and especially for storage solutions.

I would rate this solution a ten out of ten.

Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

On-premises
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Consultant
Robust and easy to use with a simple setup
Pros and Cons
  • "The product stands on its own in heavy enterprise environments."
  • "HP has several integration elements that work with other vendor storage products. I'd like to see a greater expansion on that so that a customer can do a more seamless migration from other vendor products."

What is our primary use case?

Generally, clients use the solution as primary storage or data storage for corporations. They also use it for data replication where they replicate to another site or even on the same site. They're typically replicating the data for a backup situation.

How has it helped my organization?

The solution has greatly assisted data performance as far as a VM-ware environment goes. My data performance is much faster.

What is most valuable?

One of the features that I like the most is the data replication element. The reason I like it is due to the fact that it's pretty clean on replicating data over to a second site. 

The product stands on its own in heavy enterprise environments. 

It's easy to make changes without affecting the environment.

The solution is very easy to use.

The product is very robust and offers very good performance.

What needs improvement?

HP has several integration elements that work with other vendor storage products. I'd like to see a greater expansion on that so that a customer can do a more seamless migration from other vendor products. The migration of data to their platform could be better.

Primarily they don't have a lot. They have several EMC elements that they can migrate data from, however, there are many more controllers out there and it'd be good to see a more seamless integration so that that could occur.

I'd like to see 3PAR have some integration with Cloud services.

For how long have I used the solution?

I've been using the solution for several years. It's been probably around seven years or so. It has definitely been a while.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

The stability is pretty decent. The only thing you have to worry about is that you don't overtax the controller. In other words, you don't do that combination of deduping and compression as well as data replication and then also heavily use the controllers where your IO starts, the IO performance. With IOPS and Truepoint, it's important that users do not over-utilize the environment. Then you have performance issues. 

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

You have to be careful about exactly what your usage is. You really need to understand what you want to do with the controller. You need to understand what your total IOP performances will be, before you do any sizing so that you can size appropriately, otherwise, as with any storage, you could have an underutilized controller. That would then cause you frustration and business units would suffer as you would have slower performance than what you expected.

A lot of times customers get themselves in trouble due to the fact that they make a purchase or size a controller and then later on they undersized it. Sometimes the under-sizing can occur due to the fact that a company starts putting more demand on the new stores where they want to put one more device on the storage product or connect to it, and that wasn't what it was sized for at the time. If you didn't plan on the growth of the utilization of the controllers the product doesn't look like it's performing properly, however, indeed it is. It's just, not big enough to handle the new user profile that you have put on it.

Microsoft Exchange, VMware, SQL, and Oracle - those are the types of software or devices that are applications that were used within our environment. We have several different departments or groups that get access to that storage.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

There were some older 3PARs that we wanted to replace and there were some Clariion EMC products that we wanted to replace. The reason why was due to the fact that the 3PARs, were four years old and we needed a technology revamp, so to speak. 

The other reason we switched was that EMC was just too slow. It was getting overwhelmed and we had to go to a stronger or newer technology controller. Therefore we decided to go with the 3PAR as it was a lot easier to use. We also liked the virtualization of the product and we appreciated the ease of being able to make changes without having an overall effect in the environment.

How was the initial setup?

The initial setup is straightforward. It's not too complex. If you have any SAN experiences pretty easy, as you have to understand some of the terminologies so that you can pre-prep the architectural design that you're looking for. Overall, however, it's pretty easy from a GUI perspective. You can do everything from a GUI. You don't need to play at the CLI level. Of course, if you'd like to do that, you can do that as well.

What about the implementation team?

I typically handle implementations for my clients.

What other advice do I have?

I'm a consultant and an HPE partner and I have my hands on several different things in terms of products I use.

Normally I work with all the versions as far as software versions. I've worked with all the different hardware, 3PAR versions as well, and I do a lot of installations.

The big thing and with 3PAR and with any other storage - and this goes for any kind of storage as you're sizing - is to make sure that you are getting the right size environment for what you currently have and what you expect for future growth. Otherwise, you may run into performance issues.

On a scale from one to ten, I would rate it at a nine. We've been quite happy with the solution so far. It's robust and offers very good performance.

Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

On-premises
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Systems And Storage Architect at a healthcare company with 1,001-5,000 employees
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It has given us the performance and stability that we require to run our enterprise
Pros and Cons
  • "The most valuable features are their tight integration with VMware, their multi-node architecture, and their copy services, such as Peer Persistence."
  • "I would like to see NVMe support, not only on the disk side, but also in the NVMe over Fibre Channel."

What is our primary use case?

We use 3PAR as the primary storage in our environment for all our Tier 1 applications.

We have been using it since 2015. It has performed well. You guys have gotten a lot better with the 8000 and 20000 series.

How has it helped my organization?

We design a lot of our DR and business continuity strategy around 3PAR Peer Persistence and other copy services.

What is most valuable?

The most valuable features are their tight integration with VMware, their multi-node architecture, and their copy services, such as Peer Persistence. We are a big MetroCluster user.

What needs improvement?

I would like to see the following:

  • NVMe support, not only on the disk side, but also in the NVMe over Fibre Channel.
  • More advanced copy features.
  • A few user improvements on their SSMC product.
  • Mesh-Active, which I hear is coming.

One improvement that they could do right now is with the way they do their metric clustering. With Peer Persistence, they use a Lua. It would be really nice to have a volume that is truly Active-Active in both of our data centers.  

For how long have I used the solution?

Three to five years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

It has been quite a stable product, which is why we continue to invest in it.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

It definitely scales.

How are customer service and technical support?

We use HPE technical support. We have gotten every question answered, so they have been helpful.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

We were look for a refresh. At the time, IBM was not keeping up with their VMware integration, especially with VVols. It was quite obvious that HPE was a leader in it, and this steered us into looking at them. Then, we found out that the product could do everything we needed it to do.

How was the initial setup?

The initial setup was pretty straightforward.

What was our ROI?

For the price that we were able to acquire it, we have seen it give us the performance and stability that we require to run our enterprise. They have also added features, such as the compression and duplication, which have further increased our ROI.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

NetApp, Pure Storage, and IBM. We chose HPE because they checked all the boxes.

What other advice do I have?

Nine out of 10 times, the system does exactly what we need it to do.

Most important criteria when selecting a vendor: Knowing that the product works. We like to choose bigger companies. We do not like to invest in startups because you never know if they will be acquired. 

We have a good existing relationship with HPE, which was a lot of what steered us toward using them in the storage space.

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Helps With More Than Just Serving Data, But Also With Recovery
Pros and Cons
  • "It was the easiest SAN that I have ever set up."
  • "It has helped with more than just serving data, but also with recovery."
  • "This system has been (by far) the easiest to use, manage, and expand."
  • "I would like to be able to deploy and manage 3PAR within OneView Global Dashboard so we do not have to use the interface for 3PAR."

What is our primary use case?

Our primary use for 3PAR is virtualization, SQL Server data, and backup logs. We also use it for our Citrix VDI environment.

We have been using 3PAR for two years. It has been performing as expected. We are actually getting ready to invest a big chunk of money to expand our 3PAR.

How has it helped my organization?

It has improved multiple things. Integration with current HPE products that we have, e.g., backups with integration within Veeam and restores of a huge file server using Veeam. Across the board, it has helped with more than just serving data, but also with recovery.

What is most valuable?

  • Ease of use
  • Ease of training for my new staff and junior level staff.
  • The support that we receive from HPE.

What needs improvement?

I would like more integration with OneView. I would also like to be able to deploy and manage 3PAR within OneView Global Dashboard so we do not have to use the interface for 3PAR. Overall, I would like more integration, which I think is coming.

For how long have I used the solution?

One to three years.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

It meets and exceeds all my expectations. It is easy to scale. It is fairly inexpensive to scale. It easily does whatever I need it to do.

How are customer service and technical support?

When we have a failed drive or any failure, we receive emails and do not have to open cases. 

They make the replacement of any parts easy along with the analysis of any issues with the servers, 3PARs, and any upgrades which need to be happening, in addition to any detrimental performance issues.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

We previously had Dell Compellent. We switched because we were using HPE Compute and HPE Blades, and it seemed like we might as well go all in on HPE. Also, we were not getting what we thought we wanted for performance out of Compellent.

How was the initial setup?

It was the easiest SAN that I have ever set up.

What was our ROI?

I do not know if I can put a number on it. When we buy products, we do not put ROI on it. It is more performance, and does it meet our business needs? 

This product has been exceeding anything else that we have had in the environment firsthand.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

Give 3PAR a good consideration. Budget wise, 3PAR is a lot of money compared to other solutions, but what is in the 3PAR integration that customers are getting now from the Nimble and InfoSight acquisitions, it is worthwhile.

What other advice do I have?

This system has been (by far) the easiest to use, manage, and expand.

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Easy to maintain storage array and enables us to scale faster and get our applications out in much less time
Pros and Cons
  • "We have been able to scale faster and get our applications out in much less time. We don't need to worry about the platform's ability to manage the workload, so we are pretty happy."
  • "I think cloud integration would probably be the biggest part, because that's where everyone is going and the seamless integration between on-premise and cloud is an important part of any IT strategy today."

What is our primary use case?

We use 3PAR as our primary storage array.

How has it helped my organization?

We have been able to scale faster and get our applications out in much less time. We don't need to worry about the platform's ability to manage the workload, so we are pretty happy.

Our VMware platform sits on 3PAR. We also have databases, ERP applications, and websites running on it. 

All-Flash also positions our organization for growth. It certainly has its place. We don't use All-Flash because the performance of the existing arrays knows the job, but I certainly see where if we are doing data-intensive operations it could assist us.

We deployed InfoSight predictive analytics not too long ago. It improved our management of VMs. We are now able to see a lot more using InfoSight and we have a pretty good idea of exactly what's going on in our storage array.

The storage array absolutely increases performance. Compared with what we had before 3PAR, this has certainly done its job.

The solution has also helped us reduce time to deployment, I would say by at least 30%. It's easier for us to deploy. We get our servers up and running quickly and that way we support our environment faster so we can be more agile.

It has also significantly improved throughput, so we don't need to worry about performance for any of our platforms.

What is most valuable?

The ease of maintenance is what is most valuable for us. We don't need to worry about upgrading the platform. HPE takes care of it for us.

Deduplication functionality is pretty good. We have had it for quite a few years. We are pretty impressed with their capabilities and we've never really had a problem.

What needs improvement?

As it is, it does its job very well, so it's very difficult for me to say what we should be looking for in the next platform. I think cloud integration would probably be the biggest part because that's where everyone is going and the seamless integration between on-premise and cloud is an important part of any IT strategy today.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

It's very stable.

Also, the solution's availability is remarkable. We have never had a breakdown over a storage array.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

It's very scalable as well. We never had a problem where that is concerned.

How are customer service and technical support?

They are pretty good at what they do. Those guys fix whatever the problem is. We just kind of plug it in and leave. We don't look back at it again.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

We previously used HPE. We had to upgrade because our previous platform was end of life.

How was the initial setup?

The initial setup was pretty straightforward. The guys knew what they're doing and I have a technical team to assist as well.

What about the implementation team?

HPE did the deployment for us. Their onboarding process is pretty good.

What was our ROI?

We have absolutely seen a return on our investment. I don't have numbers offhand, but the organization has certainly grown significantly as a result of the kind of platform that we have deployed.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

All of the tier one vendors were on there: Dell EMC, etc. From a perspective of price point, performance, and integrity, we felt that HPE gave us the best value.

What other advice do I have?

It's not necessarily about the price. The price is certainly an important factor, but what the solution does and how it supports you is even more important than price.

Our biggest lesson was that we need to do our homework and make sure that we're going with a vendor that can support us in the long term.

I would probably rate this as eight and a half out of ten. It does what it's supposed to and does that very well, even if there are areas to improve on. More integration with cloud would be great. But what it does, it does very well.

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Director at Proindustrial, Lda.
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Top 10
Helps to save time but pricing is expensive
Pros and Cons
  • "The most valuable feature for me is the solution's availability."
  • "HPE 3PAR StoreServ's pricing could be cheaper."

What is our primary use case?

I primarily use the product for self-storage. 

What is most valuable?

The most valuable feature for me is the solution's availability.

What needs improvement?

HPE 3PAR StoreServ's pricing could be cheaper. 

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been using HPE 3PAR StoreServ for about four years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

I rate HPE 3PAR StoreServ's stability a ten out of ten. 

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

I rate the tool's scalability an eight out of ten. It has ten users. 

How was the initial setup?

I rate the tool's deployment a five out of ten. It was completed in a few days. You need one resource to handle the deployment. 

What about the implementation team?

A reseller helped us with the deployment. 

What was our ROI?

We have saved time with the tool's use. 

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

I rate the tool's pricing an eight out of ten. It is expensive. 

What other advice do I have?

I rate HPE 3PAR StoreServ an eight out of ten. 

Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

On-premises
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