Oracle BPM Room for Improvement

Arindam Ghosh - PeerSpot reviewer
Solution Architect at MTN

Though Oracle BPM is a stable solution, it's very heavy, so this is one area for improvement. If Oracle can make the components of Oracle BPM lighter, and if the deployment for the solution could be easier, that would make Oracle BPM better.

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Neilsen Seixas - PeerSpot reviewer
Owner at NSTEC

There is room for improvement in the pricing structure.

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ES
Director of Tech and Consulting Services at Oriontax

In terms of our overall data science solution, pricing is an area that could use improvement. However, in terms of features, the analytics perform exceptionally well. The entire suite could benefit from faster processing, and that's an area for improvement. 

Pricing should be looked into. Additionally, the technical understanding of the company and the team is not as fast as it could be. So, more focus on marketing is needed. We have very few skill sets, even from the technical team, that understand the platform. Customers tend to look for open-source solutions without fully understanding the capabilities of the Oracle BPM solution. So, marketing would be crucial to showcase its features.

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Mehmet Saribas - PeerSpot reviewer
Software Development Manager at Anadolu Hayat Emeklilik

Oracle BPM is hard to configure and requires some experience to use it. It is a complicated tool. The documentation could also be improved. It is hard to easily find configuration information or user manual on the internet.

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Brigitte Klinkenberg - PeerSpot reviewer
Business Architect at IDS GmbH

There are some difficulties in reading the data lineage because if you are using packages or something similar, you cannot deep dive in it. You have to maintain it manually.

I would like to see Oracle enhance the solution automatically reading from SQL. That would be great for function packages. That might be difficult, though.

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SatyajitSethy - PeerSpot reviewer
Architect at a tech vendor with 5,001-10,000 employees

The price is a little expensive for me. The ROE could be improved.

The time it takes to get from deployment to production could be faster. We had to make a lot of little changes in the design. Enabling those changes, testing, and deploying the solution becomes time consuming.

If there's a specific issue with the product itself, then interacting with the customer support team and getting the new package or new updates from Oracle is time consuming.

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LG
Senior Enterprise Architect at a comms service provider with 10,001+ employees

In the future, the market is consolidating towards microservices approaching software development product. Microservices can be the future of programming, and the old way of doing middleware and implementing middleware services could shift to the microservices side, so we will need some hybrid solutions. At this time, we use the microservices, and microservices will support external digital applications that we publish on mobile and website. We will keep using the middleware side for delivery and back office systems. Therefore, it will not be 100% microservices or it will not be 100% middleware, but instead we are going to use a hybrid approach where some parts use microservices. Thus, it would be good if they could provide some additional connectors or an application developer environment for microservices. 

It could have easier administration. It takes time to configure and deploy. We need more team messaging buzz, like Kafka. People do so much business and logic coding in an ESP site, but what we need more of is lightweight messaging mechanisms, like Kafka. This is also the trend. We need some type of pretense for best practices for new generation programs, which can serve digital customers.

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SA
Delivery Manager at a computer software company with 201-500 employees

The product must reduce its cost. It will help it compete with other open-source tools evolving in the market.

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it_user7818 - PeerSpot reviewer
Senior Architect at AVIO Consulting

Although it is a robust product, its learning curve can be steep without having the proper training and mentoring on the first project.

As with most BPM projects interaction with people is a key element. Creating user interfaces the end users see and interact with as work item instances travel through process can be challenging. If ADF is used, most companies struggle due to its complexity, steep learning curve, and the need to tune it for performance. The web form design tool in Composer (currently an OEM product from Frevvo) is simple to use for citizen developers, but can be lacking in the functionality most projects need.

To get around these issues, the architecture is flexible enough to allow the use of other UI technologies. On new projects we now create and edit forms using Angular JS using REST services. This has made our developers much more productive and the forms perform better.

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SP
Director - Risk and Finance IT at Credit-Suisse (USA)

The API interfaces could be more robust. Existing APIs in the product need to be fine-tuned, made more robust and flexible for adoption.

The product should be made available with all its current capabilities addressing known shortcomings on the cloud. 

I would like to see current out-of-the-box MIs enhanced, offering more interactive capability.

Introduce machine learning and AI capabilities.

Change the front end and the ability to offer forms for business users.

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VM
Software Engineer at a computer software company with 10,001+ employees

Oracle BPM could probably be improved with respect to the cost. When you are using this product, it'll be a bit costlier for the ROA. I think they should do some discounts on these products, especially for the licenses. 

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AP
IT Integration Architect at OUTSTREAM SPRL

We have had some issues with version migration, from one version of processes to another. We would have to call Oracle Services but on a day to day, we didn't have any issues. 

I would like for the design of the migration of process instances from one version to another to be more visual. It would be very helpful to have visual tools in order to design the equivalence of tasks and process payload between versions. Until now bpm database migration has been needed.

I would also like more UI flexibility, the ADF framework is too Oracle-specific. 

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AK
Technical Manager at Royal Visio

The stability of this solution deteriorates when more than one thousand instances are concurrently active.

The Oracle database is not an easy product to maintain.

I would like to see the next version of this solution be simpler and more transparent about what is happening at the level of the database. This would allow users to better understand problems.

The technology that is being used for the UI needs to be updated to make it quicker. Oracle is using the ADF technology, which is a very heavy framework. Oracle cloud uses the JET framework, which is much faster and consumes fewer resources.

Oracle needs to return some of their focus to the Fusion products, rather than concentrating so heavily on cloud-based technologies.

Overall, the engine and the UI both have to be made lighter.

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BG
Lead Software Engineer at a tech services company with 501-1,000 employees

Oracle BPM is not used directly by our customers. It is a tool for developers. Oracle tried to make it a tool for business users too but from our point of view, this positioning is wrong. For example, one of the critical features that is not working well enough, is migration of processes when you deploy a new version of processes.

Every time we roll out a new version of processes, we have to migrate to a new process. The process of this migration was not very smooth. We later decided that it would be easier for us to stop all processes, deploy a new version and then restart. 

We use our own interfaces because the standard interface was not sufficient for our customers. We tried the business rules, but after some time, we stopped using them. Right now it's mainly the process management functionality that we use.

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AK
Head of Architects at a tech services company with 1,001-5,000 employees

From my knowledge of this solution, I don't see that the Oracle BPM includes features such as the growth of discovery and process mining.

Technical support could be better.

In the next release, I would like to see the growth of discovery and process mining features added. Also, the ability to be containerized, and to support the cloud-native deployments.

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it_user415716 - PeerSpot reviewer
Solution Architect at a tech services company with 201-500 employees

Support for Decision Modelling Notation (DMN). There is a Business Rule Engine available, but this is not DMN-compatible.

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it_user736194 - PeerSpot reviewer
CEO at a tech vendor

The default Workspace does not meet all our needs and sometimes you need to create your own custom Workspace.

Alternatively, you can customize it, but you can hardly find examples for it.

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it_user1248621 - PeerSpot reviewer
Business Solutions Director & CTO at a computer software company with 201-500 employees

The solution needs to offer better integration with third-party systems.

The solution should focus more support towards new department methods that assist with the architecture of the deployment itself.

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it_user740466 - PeerSpot reviewer
Constultant at a tech company with 51-200 employees

Their Case Management set of features is severely lacking and should be a target for immediate improvement dealing with unpredictable processes inside of organizations.

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it_user511731 - PeerSpot reviewer
Deputy project manager with 501-1,000 employees

The operations and credit analysis areas need to be improved.

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