VMware RabbitMQ Room for Improvement

PK
Packaged App development Senior Analyst at a consultancy with 10,001+ employees

We needed to configure additional plugins. While it was relatively easy to do this on-premises, it became more challenging in the cloud.

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AF
Director Consulting Services at M3tech

The solution is a fine product. However, to make it perfect, in some cases, there might be a need to traverse the queue. RabbitMQ currently lacks the capability for archiving the queue, which essentially turns it into a log.

For such requirements, you may need to explore other options like Kafka or custom drivers that allow traversing the entire queue. In RabbitMQ, while you can traverse the entire queue, you need to devise a workaround to handle the messages. For example, you can read a message from one queue, publish it to another queue or keep it in some other way to retain the desired entries, and then stop at that point.

Additionally, the need for support may vary depending on the usage and potential heavy loads on the system. The support feature could benefit from some improvement in terms of accessibility and responsiveness.

I don't encounter significant challenges or areas that require improvement while using the solution. Everything works smoothly, and I find it well thought out. It's got excellent compliance with MQP 9.0. Overall, I have had a positive experience with the solution.

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VB
Solutions Architect at a tech services company with 51-200 employees

The availability could be better. When something crashes, a queue gets deleted, and my data is lost. They need to improve this so that we don't lose data during issues like crashes.

We'd like to understand how many queues are running on RabbitMQ. I'm not sure how to get these details and how to verify the information.

We need other protocols. 

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Elaynchezhiyan Kandasamy - PeerSpot reviewer
Mulesoft Developer at Dwinsoft Technologies

The product is pretty hard to configure.

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Elaynchezhiyan Kandasamy - PeerSpot reviewer
Mulesoft Developer at Dwinsoft Technologies

VMware RabbitMQ's configuration process could be easier to understand.

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Yuvashree K - PeerSpot reviewer
Executive RPA Developer at a tech services company with 10,001+ employees

VMware RabbitMQ needs to create a new queue system. 

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it_user566880 - PeerSpot reviewer
Software Engineer with 1,001-5,000 employees

The product works pretty well, but one small thing could be an improvement to the monitoring site. It could be a little bit more modern, instead of postback refreshing, etc.

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it_user639441 - PeerSpot reviewer
Development Lead - Java/Hybris with 10,001+ employees

The solution needs improvement on performance.

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BL
Head of Data & Infrastructure at a tech services company with 51-200 employees
  • The product should have much better scaling and scalability capabilities. Currently, they're really falling behind some of the competitors such as Kafka and NSQ.
  • The installation of the HA version and clustering mechanism should be made much easier.
  • The fact that a single queue can't be distributed across multiple instances/nodes is a major disadvantage.
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DP
Sr Technical Consultant at a tech services company with 1,001-5,000 employees

One of the issues is that as soon as you go outside of a switch or not in IP address range, the clustering no longer has all the wonderful features so clustering outside of network boundaries is a problem. I'd like to see stream processing as an additional feature. Kafka has a streaming API and I'd like Rabbit to have that too.

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TS
Java Programmer at Netcompany

I was struggling with installing a few things. It would be good if was somewhat similar to RedHat. There should be more documentation regarding installation troubleshooting.

It's pretty straightforward, the setup, but it would be useful to know what to do if you do face certain challenges. Right now, without more in-depth documentation, it's unclear.

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it_user622962 - PeerSpot reviewer
Director - Information Technology at a transportation company with 51-200 employees
  • RabbitMQ is great, but it depends on the Erlang VM.
  • I understand that Erlang is the reason why RabbitMQ is what it is. However, having to install and maintain yet another VM product has been annoying.
  • The configuration for RabbitMQ borders on the esoteric. Once we got all of the moving parts working, it’s been a dream. However, it was an effort just to get it going.
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DB
Chief Executive Officer at Couragium Solutions

When you have complex tasks, RabbitMQ is hard to use.

There are several things that you have to do manually, so there should be better tools for that.

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AF
Software Engineer at a tech vendor with 1,001-5,000 employees

After creating a RabbitMQ service, they provide you with a sort of web management dashboard.

The dashboard allows you see things on your queues, purge/delete queues, etc. The dashboard is pseudo-real time, refreshing every N secs/mins, specified with a drop down.

I’d like this dashboard to use web sockets, so it would actually be in real time. It would slightly increase debugging, etc.

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it_user635418 - PeerSpot reviewer
VP of Software at a manufacturing company with 11-50 employees

The biggest area we struggled with was operations troubleshooting. We were running a pretty big cluster and ended up with some random cluster failures that were difficult to troubleshoot. A good portion of these were self inflicted but occasionally the distributed database would end up corrupted.

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it_user647451 - PeerSpot reviewer
Technical Manager with 501-1,000 employees

The debugging capabilities and testing flexibilities need to be improved.

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TM
Assistant Student at a retailer with 5,001-10,000 employees

The user interface could be improved. We have an interface that shows the consumption rate, the number of consumers, their occupation rate. We should have a column in that interface that shows the estimated time until, at the current rate of consumption, the number of messages is to be consumed from a specific queue. That would be great. I wanted to read, however, as it is right now, JavaScript would have loaded the browser too much. Basically, I'd just like to see the consumption rate in each queue without too much fuss.

The solution could use some plugins that could be integrated into the server installation. We had a plugin that we used to delay something that from one version to the other was integrated into the server setup. Maybe it was more of an extension. However, more plugins could be also be integrated into newer versions of Rabbit.

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MT
CTO, CIO, Chief Architect at a tech services company with 11-50 employees

RabbitMQ provides the ability to scale queues in a very simple and elegant way. If it had a “failure queue” with robust delivery and recovery built-in with the same power, that would be great. We use a completely different queuing system for failures. So there is a little more effort to take messages in a failure queue, analyze them, figure out what went wrong and then restart them in Rabbit. It is doable, and we do it, but if we had a round trip solution in Rabbit, that would be awesome.

For me, having a robust failure queue, is high on the list of improvements needed in the near future. This is an important update needed because right now we are using Doctrine for our failure queue. Doctrine does a great job.

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it_user643737 - PeerSpot reviewer
Senior Developer/Architect at a tech services company with 51-200 employees

RabbitMQ is clearly better supported on Linux than it is on Windows. There are idiosyncrasies in the Windows version that are not there on Linux.

The documentation for the Windows version is also less plentiful and less accurate.

The online community clearly provides better Linux support, but this naturally follows from the smaller Windows installed base.

There are also some potential concerns about how we maintain high-availability whilst also scaling out.

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it_user571806 - PeerSpot reviewer
Founder Partner and CTO at Rogue Startup

I would like to see better documentation on how to set up complex webs of RabbitMQ servers — master/slave, multi-master, etc.

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it_user564939 - PeerSpot reviewer
Research Assistant at a university with 1,001-5,000 employees

Improve the ability to handle the large message load.

People usually use RabbitMQ as the lightweight messenger, if they have a large message load people are inclined to use Kafka. But at the beginning stage of most projects, the data is small, people do not need to use a Kafka type of messenger, they are more likely to use RabbitMQ. If RabbitMQ can handle the large message load and support ordered delivery, with the project growing, data bigger, people can still use RabbitMQ and wouldn't need to find another tool to use like Kafka which is much more convenient.

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NT
Head of Cloud Platform Development at a tech vendor with 501-1,000 employees

The web management tool.

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it_user618963 - PeerSpot reviewer
Senior Software Specialist at a security firm with 1,001-5,000 employees
  • You cannot edit shovels other than by recreating them.
  • Routing of data could be more enhanced with a nice GUI. ("IF header.contains(this.thing) THEN data.goesTo(cluster_02)").
  • In its current form, you have to recreate a shovel with the same parameters except for the one you want to change. You end up doing more or less a delete/create.
  • There is no HTML form where you can click on a shovel and adjust the wrong parameter.
  • If I click on a shovel, I get on a page that lists the shovel, but it is not editable. You have to create a shovel and then delete the old one with all the same parameters, except for the one you want to change.
  • Temporarily stopping shovels is also not possible in the web interface. I do not know if the CLI version can do it, but if somebody wants to temporarily stop the incoming flow, he or she has to delete the shovel and then recreate it afterwards. This is annoying, to say the least.
  • RabbitMQ has to be started before one can define exchanges, queues, and even users with rabbitmqctl. See https://www.rabbitmq.com/man/r...
  • This is no problem if one lives in the monolithic server environment. However, if one wanted to make a RabbitMQ Docker-container with a pre-defined set of exchanges, queues, users, and shovels, you have to literally jump start the server. You would have to configure it in the Docker build phase. You would do it like this in the Dockerfile: RUN service start rabbitmq-server && wait 30 && rabbitmqctl add_user mike mikespassword.
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it_user575835 - PeerSpot reviewer
Mid Level Software Engineer at a tech services company with 501-1,000 employees

Support for Windows systems needs to improve. This could move Microsoft shops away from it. We provisioned Linux servers specifically for our RabbitMQ servers.

RabbitMQ clusters run on two kinds of protocols: AMQP and HTTP. The one we were using was AMQP (this requires all your cluster nodes to be in the same network partition). With our Windows servers, every time we used to run Puppet, RabbitMQ used to think it got partitioned. This problem never occurred in our Linux cluster.

All this is subjective. Maybe we were doing something wrong. There are a few other things which they have listed here: https://www.rabbitmq.com/windows-quirks.html Overall, I don't think it's RabbitMQ's fault because Windows can be a problematic OS at times.

So, I would recommend using Linux servers instead of Windows servers for a RabbitMQ cluster.

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it_user624792 - PeerSpot reviewer
Senior Software Engineer at a hospitality company with 1,001-5,000 employees

The High Availability feature is not really reliable. It also took a really long time to restart the box when there were a lot of messages in the queue.

As mentioned on its document page, it cannot tolerate network partition well.
I suffered a network parturition with 3 nodes cluster and lost all data. So with our cloud provider, we can’t rely on pause_minority and seems like auto_heal is a better fit for us.

Apart from that, RabbitMQ doesn’t seem to be stable when it has high RAM usage. Especially when you have millions of queue items in a queue and a node crashes, adding a new node to such cluster will be a pain as the replication takes forever.

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it_user660027 - PeerSpot reviewer
Software Engineer at a marketing services firm with 51-200 employees
  • The product has to improve the crisis management, especially in memory issues.
  • Its clustering feature also needs improvement.
  • I would simplify the configuration. I would add default configuration that prevents the queue system from filling out the server storage.
  • I would also decouple the queue from the RabbitMQ Management, so that the queues won't get stuck.
  • Clustering and clustering crisis management: When the cluster falls, there needs to be a simple way to recover it. It currently suffers from a recover problem.
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it_user622737 - PeerSpot reviewer
Software architect & back-end engineer at a tech services company
  • Have more features such as being able to replay a sequence of what was received.
  • Handle more messages per second.
  • Consume fewer resources: NATS can handle millions of requests within a few minutes. RabbitMQ handles hundreds of requests with the same resources (RAM). Finding a way to be more efficient in this aspect would open them up to other markets, like IoT or embedded systems.
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it_user560979 - PeerSpot reviewer
Principal Software Engineer at a tech company with 501-1,000 employees

RabbitMQ needs 2 additional features:

  • It is lacking a good dashboard on the web interface; maybe they can develop a dashboard for monitoring.
  • There is no alert mechanism. For example, sometimes consumers may be killed or the input messages in queues are greater than the consumed messages. Thus, I would like them to define a rule for alert; maybe they can develop an alert mechanism.
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it_user566901 - PeerSpot reviewer
Graduate Teaching Assistant at a university with 1,001-5,000 employees

The solution can be improved in terms of how to handle the rolled off data from the queue. Currently, if the consumer does not consume a queue, the data in the queue will eventually overflow and be discarded.

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TS
Senior Application Developer at a computer software company with 51-200 employees

I would like to see improvements in fluent configuration. I'd also like to see more support for code-first environment configuration. We do a lot of this stuff as part of our deployment process via command line scripts, but I'd rather have a specific API to target rabbitmq.config and rabbitmq-env.config so that configuration could scale with my environments more easily. If more of that was baked into the RabbitMQ management HTTP API, it would help.

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Namrata G - PeerSpot reviewer
Independent Technology Consultant - Financial Softwares at a tech services company with 51-200 employees

There are some security concerns that have been raised with this product.

The configuration works with a config file, where all of the controls, including that of the administrator and user access, are stored there. The security isn't very stringent or very elaborate.

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it_user827274 - PeerSpot reviewer
IT Manager at a financial services firm with 10,001+ employees

The next release should include some of the flexibility and features that Kafka offers.

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VP
Integration Consultant at a tech services company with 11-50 employees

I would like to see the performance of the administration portal improved and additional messaging protocols.

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MR
Head of Engineering at Contineo
  • Difficult to integrate with automated test and CICD 
  • Moving beyond basic configurations can be challenging
  • Not clear how to implement durable subscriber connections
  • Not clear how a Rabbit service restart allows subscriber auto re-connect
  • Service cluster failover depends on shared disk infrastructure.
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it_user622743 - PeerSpot reviewer
Solutions Architect at a tech services company with 1,001-5,000 employees

I want it to reorder messages in a queue, if possible. If you could reorder messages in a queue directly, then you would not need a sequencer to reorder messages outside of RabbitMQ.

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JA
Technical Lead at Interface Fintech Ltd

Their implementation is quite tricky. It's not that easy to implement RabbitMQ as a cluster. It would be great if they could improve that. 

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it_user624789 - PeerSpot reviewer
President, Applications and Security Architect at a tech services company with 51-200 employees

The documentation needs to be improved. There's a learning curve on setting it up and there are issues arising from slower networks that they lack documentation on.

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it_user589473 - PeerSpot reviewer
Full Stack Developer Intern at a tech vendor with 1,001-5,000 employees

I would love to see better documentation/demo for few technologies. There is need for better stability in the Windows environment.

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Buyer's Guide
VMware RabbitMQ
March 2024
Learn what your peers think about VMware RabbitMQ. Get advice and tips from experienced pros sharing their opinions. Updated: March 2024.
767,847 professionals have used our research since 2012.