Tidal Automation Benefits

Reviewer957656
Tidal Administrator at a retailer with 5,001-10,000 employees
When I started here, they had already been on Tidal for about five years. So I'm not really sure where they were before Tidal. They did a lot of mainframe things in the past. From what I've heard from people here from the "old school," once they globalized and got everything into Tidal, the ability to see everything across the scheduling universe was a huge improvement. They didn't have to give different people different access to different systems and check four or five things, just to make sure something was running correctly. The solution helped to reduce weekend and overtime hours. We're a 24 by 7 support model. Regarding the Tidal application, the one thing that we try to explain to anybody, from a support or monitoring standpoint, is that jobs trigger through Tidal, but not physically in Tidal. So if we have, hypothetically, an SAP job failure, it's not a Tidal failure, it's an SAP failure. So it goes right to SAP support, which saves time. In the environment I came from, they didn't have that mentality. So if, hypothetically, an ERP job failed, they'd call the Tidal person first instead of the ERP support. That type of understanding, as a whole, really helps from a support standpoint. The admins don't get a lot of calls unless there's an actual issue with the Tidal application itself. In the time I've been here, we've definitely increased staff availability. From a business standpoint, we've started utilizing file monitors more, for what they call "file events" within the application. In the past, when an end-user would drop a file in SAP, for example, they'd contact our operations team, or send an email saying, "Run in this job." There isn't a real need for that in many cases. We've implemented a lot of file events that will actually only run jobs if they need to, if a file's available. Along the same lines, we had processes that would run a process in SAP, and even though it didn't create a file, there were other jobs downstream that would be hanging out and waiting for a file that never showed up. So not from just a staff availability point of view, but in terms of resource availability, it has definitely improved things a lot. From an operator standpoint, I would estimate Tidal is saving us 15 to 20 hours per week, just in manual interaction with inserting jobs on a request, since a lot of that stuff was implemented at our end. Regarding job counts, we're pushing over seven million a year. That varies, obviously, depending on request jobs and other things. There are some processes that we shut down for year-end processing, so they stop running for a week or two. But from an expansion standpoint, we are constantly looking to see where else we can use Tidal, for new applications that are coming online or things that people are running on their own where they haven't even thought about Tidal's scheduling. In 2019, we did 7.7 million jobs. In 2018, we were at 7.1 million. In 2017, we were at 6.1 million. So with Tidal we're adding on the order of half-a-million jobs per year. View full review »
EmmetWagle
Sr System Engineer at a financial services firm with 5,001-10,000 employees
For administrators, the alerting has been a big plus, in addition to having a place to go and look at the status. They can be notified when there's something happening in a schedule, like things are falling behind schedule, or something unexpectedly fails. It definitely helps speed up the time to jump in and address an issue and get things back on track. It has also given us a framework for standardizing a lot of our processes. Before we had all these things in Tidal, there were so many custom services and applications written. Tidal has given us a way to say, "Here's a standard way for you to get your jobs scheduled and automated." It hasn't necessarily enforced it, but it has given people an opportunity to say, "Oh, if I use the tool and if I set up my jobs to be able to run in the scheduler, it will be that much easier for me to get this delivered to production, or to test it and validate it." It has helped us put a framework around how developers are going to get their application code deployed. It's not really pushing the code, but it has encouraged some consistency in how they design their processes. It would be really hard to quantify how much staff time it has saved, but for sure, before that initial move into the solution, some things would take forever. It was just complete spaghetti going through dozens of boxes with different crontabs trying to figure out: "Okay, I had an incident in the middle of the night. What ran, what didn't run? What ran but didn't complete successfully?" and those kinds of things. Tidal has resulted in a huge gain there. I don't think there's any way I could quantify how much it's simplified those outage scenarios. And even a planned maintenance was just as hard as an outage before we had Tidal. Now, with a scheduler, we can schedule a big maintenance that's going to require a lot of people to be on hand, one where time is of the essence. The more efficiently we can adjust a schedule for an off-hours maintenance and essentially disrupt what our typical schedule is, the more it helps us with those maintenance procedures. We know in advance that we have the capability to move jobs earlier and to move jobs later so that they're outside of the maintenance window and that we're not going to conflict with anything. When we're done with our maintenance, we're able to just press a button and let everything run and go. Tidal has definitely reduced weekend and overtime hours. In our environment, there's no way to eliminate those hours, but that's nothing to do with Tidal. That's our own design. Our team does the majority of the work with the scheduler. It gives us the ability to do a lot of the scheduling tasks pretty quickly, so that the developers or business folks who are making requests don't need to deal with it. It gives us the leverage to make what they feel is a bigger change to the schedule, and to knock it out really quickly. They don't have to code something or make changes to handle it. We can do a lot of those adjustments from the scheduler itself. The solution has enabled us to do more in terms of job capacity because, in the past, we had all these different crontabs running around out there. There was really no good way for people to condense jobs together, as soon as the previous one finished, unless they customized every process flow or job flow into a script. Doing so was essentially a custom program or process that they'd have to create for each one, and that's pretty difficult to manage. With the scheduler, we can squeeze those jobs together with their native process runtimes and say, "Okay, we're going to run through steps 1 to 10, allow those things to run in a sequence, and get them done in the shortest window possible. It has definitely helped with that. Our environment is really different now compared to what it was when we started with Tidal all those years ago, but there's really no way we could have sustained that old model without having the functionality that's in the scheduler get our schedule done quickly. As our company has grown, it's been difficult for us to find maintenance windows or quiet periods. Every minute that we can save reduces the time an overnight batch process impacts daytime business users. The quicker we can get things completed, the better it is for the user experience and our environment. View full review »
LeeAnn McLennan
Application Engineer at Columbia Sportswear
We are using it for cross-platform workloads. That is probably the biggest reason that we are using it. The solution is generally good. Over the years, we have needed to do our own learning about how to manage it in terms of understanding dependencies and successors, then setting up times and so forth. However, this is the type of stuff you would have to learn with any scheduling app. We find it to be really useful. I'm hoping with the Explorer tool that they'll have better reporting so we can do some full cross-platform job stream reporting that they haven't really done much in the past. Therefore, we should be able to see some of that. In terms of managing it, I find it very useful other than the learning curve. We use cross-platform management for so many things. We use it a lot for our warehouse management replenishment type things: to and from SAP. Once we implemented our job stream flow, things gets sorted out of house for delivery and can be update in SAP (and vice versa). Having the job stream has been helpful. Also, having it all automated makes a difference to replenishment. We use the ability to enable admins and users to see the information relevant to them specifically in our production environment. We can, but don't always, limit someone to only seeing data that they need to see. Then, they are not overwhelmed by other data. We do allow most of our users to see all the other data just for information and to understand the environment. However, you can begin to narrow in on what you need, if you're using policies and work groups correctly. Depending on how we use it, especially in production, it lets users only be able to do what they should be doing in production. They should only be managing their jobs, possibly see other jobs, and understand if there is a delay upstream which could be impacting them. They won't be able to manage those jobs. They need to contact the right people who understand those jobs to manage them. The solution lets them work within their lanes and do the work correctly without having a negative impact upstream, and hopefully, not downstream. There is an awareness that we are scheduling across the multiple applications and understanding that all applications don't live in their own silos. There is an impact across the organization. It gives us that holistic awareness, in general. In the past couple of years, I have done education and we have leveraged creating alerts that go to the right people. It has allowed us to do that. Therefore, I don't get alerts for something that I shouldn't be dealing with. Now, people who own the jobs get the alerts and they can figure out if there is a problem with the application that they need to work with or if it is something with Tidal. Then, if necessary, they can elevate it up to me. Fortunately, that doesn't happen as much anymore, which makes me very happy. It gives us the alerts in time so we can handle things ideally before they become critical, and hopefully, we're doing our jobs so the right people are contacted. View full review »
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JonFredrickson
JDE Manager at Oshkosh
The biggest thing we see is the fact that when we schedule a job we know that it will submit, and if there are any errors we will be notified and able to resolve them. That's our biggest benefit. That way we're being proactive instead of being reactive. We use the solution for cross-platform and cross-application workloads. We'll submit a job in J.D. Edwards and that will create a CSV file. We'll take that file and we'll either copy it up to SharePoint or we'll FTP it to another location where it gets used by something. Through J.D. Edwards we have an MRP, which means run a bunch of jobs. If it wasn't for Tidal, and we had to use any of the standard tools, we wouldn't be able to run those jobs sufficiently. If there's an error with a job, there is an alert with a PDF. In that alert, we can customize any messaging that would assist people in resolving it. If it was a specific file location that they need to go look at, we can put a link to that file location. If it's something with logs, we can attach to the logs to the email so they have one place to start looking. We can even attach work instructions to that email notification: "Hey, if this job errors out and you received this email, here are the steps to resolve." So people don't have to go looking for that information. They can just start resolving it right away. Tidal has also definitely helped to reduce at-night hours. It's able to monitor itself. If a job fails, we're able to resolve the job and let the customer know, instead of the customer calling us and saying, "Some job failed. Go fix it," and having to research it. It could save my team about an hour's worth of work in each of those situations. Overall, it saves us about 20 hours of work each week, hours where we would have been stuck trying to determine what the issue was instead of having an alert that tells us exactly what the issue is. In terms of the number of jobs we run, I don't know if Tidal has increased it, but it's made it more flexible. For example, with J.D. Edwards there is no way to email attachments, so we had to have a developer spend some time to create a custom application. That application is built into Tidal and I have a lot more flexibility to make changes. Instead of being tied to just sending emails, I can also take the files and copy them to a SharePoint or FTP them to a location outside of the company. We didn't have that ability before. View full review »
reviewer1275663
Team Lead at a manufacturing company with 10,001+ employees
As far as investigating what ran and when, it is fine for the most part. You can investigate on the GUI and take a look at different things. We've been using it for 15 years so we clearly like the product. We wouldn't be able to do many of the complex scheduling that we do today without it. For us, it is a mission-critical app. Because if it doesn't work or has a problem, then SAP doesn't function. It is that critical. So, it's an essential tool for us to manage and run SAP jobs. We depend on Tidal. Without it, we wouldn't be able to function. A lot of stuff is automated. You don't need people running things on their own. They can schedule and run it, then not having to worry about it. They can even get alerts if there is a problem. People are just coming into the mix only if there is a problem. They get alerted to see what happened. From the automated aspect of it, you can run jobs based on a schedule, events, or whatever reduces manual intervention. It just makes our life that much easier because all we have to do is define complex jobs, then they are pretty much on their own. We only intervene if there is a problem. Otherwise, people don't even know it is there unless there is a problem. We run a very large number of jobs per day. At the end of month, in particular, we can easily build jobs and dependencies, expanding on what we do. It's not so much a factor of what Tidal can do, it's more a factor of what SAP can do. You can easily expand what you do with Tidal, but then you need to be sure that you can do it right in SAP. E.g., what happens after we started seeing SAP to do it? From a Tidal perspective, it is pretty easy now because we have had it for so long and have so much experience with it. It has helped quite a bit in terms of increasing capacity. We are constantly adding jobs, though not a ton. Sometimes, we take some away, but that's rare. It's more that we add jobs. It simplifies the process of developing an application if I have Tidal because I can around things and automate things easily with Tidal. The solution is very important to us because it does a lot for us 24/7/365. View full review »
AndrewGriffin
Lead Control Analyst at Central States Funds
People who are on the Client Manager were complaining about response issues. It's never been proven that a batch job is causing the issue, but they do find that so many things are hitting the database at the same time that they shut down the batch job that's running at the time. We've now been able to move our schedules around so that it can just run at night when everybody's off the system. Also, after a while using Tidal it started to reduce weekend hours by not have to watch it constantly on the weekend. The only time we're really busy on a weekend, now, is when there is a major upgrade going on, as we usually do it on a Saturday or Sunday. But other than that, it's very quiet on the weekend. It has reduced overtime by 80 to 90 percent. As of right now, the only time we really have overtime is planned overtime. Once a month, our network team applies the Microsoft security patching, so we have to pick a day, once a month to hold everything in the schedule. They then apply their security patches to all the Windows Servers. They bring the applications back up and we have to do a quick, sample test to make sure Tidal is okay. We then run a few jobs to make sure other things are okay and the business users have to check their applications and their data. At that point we turn the schedule back on for the weekend. It sounds like a lot but it only takes about an hour. Where we used to have two or three hours of overtime a week, now it's down to one hour a month. In addition, our number of jobs has been growing steadily. We do about 1,100 to 1,200 jobs a day. We could go further but we have never really tested how many jobs we could do. View full review »
reviewer1283868
Production Control Analyst at a healthcare company with 1,001-5,000 employees
With the portfolio of jobs that we're talking about, it's continuing to grow. There is way more work being added to the system than there is work that is being retired from it. That's just the way the animal works. It's been able to handle, perfectly fine, the complexity of the interrelationships between the processes. We actually ported off of Maestro. Maestro was the scheduler that we were using, enterprise-wide, and it was very inefficiently used when I got here. When we came up on Tidal, we didn't convert anything. We built all of the definitions that exist in Tidal. So over the 15 years, that portfolio has grown. As a whole, we're trying to automate as many things as we can to alleviate the manual processes. One of the things that Tidal has helped us with, because it is cross-platform: We had a number of different schedulers in this organization and we've been porting everything that was running out of these other, unrelated schedulers into this scheduler. That has afforded us the ability to set up direct dependencies between processes that couldn't talk to one another before. Over the 15 years, we've definitely gained a lot from that. What had been manual controls have become automated controls, by using this tool to replace a number of schedulers. View full review »
DavidCorbishley
Senior Consultant at Corbishley Consulting
It saves times due to automation. With some files, we do hundreds a day for a particular vendor. This would be hard to do manually. Also, the speed at which we can do this is excellent. We do all types of stuff, like we print checks for customers at the local office, which used to take a bunch of time, but now, we can do it in a minute or two. Windows and Linux are our servers. We use it there, then we do things between Workday or the business application for Oracle. We can do processes which include local scripts or work with these different tools, then they can blend them altogether with Tidal. It does a very good job of managing cross-platform, cross-application workloads. It lets our command center monitor a bunch of things from one screen. The solution enables admins and users to see information relevant to them. We do a lot of this as we have different teams who want to monitor their own jobs or be involved with their own support. They can do that. With the different levels of security within the tool, we can allow people to rerun jobs or just view information and different things based on their need and security requirements. This helps us decentralize a lot activity. If users can look at things themselves, or potentially certain groups can rerun jobs, we can offload that from the command center or other support teams. We need to have less Tidal specific support people and more generalists, as they know their own applications in more depth than any of us. It lets them more effectively do their support, and not need to have other people do support, like in the command center or Tidal team. The solution has increased productivity by getting people's problems resolved faster. It also helps those teams understand how things work a little better, so maybe they can improve their processes. If we can get the problem solving closest to the people who know the resources, we don't have to bring in the Tidal team since a lot of this stuff is not an actual Tidal problem. It's more a problem with their script or server, etc. Therefore, they can get work on their specific issue themselves. For example, we can't fix their script or if there's a problem with their server. That's not our team's function. They can get to that faster. Or, the people who are monitoring, like the command center, can help get their ticket to the right group faster. Until recently, I had to be available on call. Now, that has greatly dropped. We have these different groups who take more responsibility for themselves. Before, if anything went wrong, they called Tidal, who would say, "Your script is not our problem." Now, they're able to route those tickets more effectively, and those of us who are on the Tidal team don't have a standard on call anymore. View full review »
reviewer1271571
Sr. Platform Engineer at a software R&D company with 10,001+ employees
Tidal enables admins and users to see the information relevant to them. We have something like 50 different teams working on our Tidal platform. We segregate between them using work groups. When a user logs into Tidal, they only see what they have permission for, not other projects. Data engineers are the users of this solution. A user who comes into Tidal, develops his job, and creates their job in Tidal, then triggers the job or sets up a schedule. An admin is someone who keeps the lights on, making sure the platform is up and running. They maintain the solution and configure it, doing upgrades. If I just want to monitor my job, that is something that the solution does really well because there is some constant job activity that you can login and see what has happened every day and every minute. That is pretty good. An admin can drill down to processes and data, but I don't think they are doing that. The solution has helped to eliminate weekend hours. In the past, we had to schedule a job every Saturday. Then, someone had to login and run the job. Now, Tidal has the capability of event-driven jobs. For example, if a job is failing, we can do something. Or, if a job is completed abnormally, we can rerun the job. So, all of these features that they offer help us not to come into the office on a Saturday. We don't need to have a human person do those weekend activities and treat them. They also thought a lot of about outages in the product. You can set up an outage to an adapter or connection, to say, "Between these hours on the weekend, I don't want to trigger any jobs." That works very well. View full review »
reviewer1275831
Data Platforms Operations Lead Managed Hosting at a marketing services firm with 1,001-5,000 employees
It reduces our administrative costs. As much as people are in a DevOps model, we can create dashboards for tier-one people to monitor multiple jobs and then alert or call when things fail. It helps us with reliability and managing SLAs. It has also helped to reduce weekend and overtime hours due to the fact that you can have a single person manage multiple jobs. If we didn't have the single pane of glass and that visibility, people would have to manually look at logs to determine the progress of a job. So it reduces headcount. But when you run 24 by seven and 365 you still have people working weekends. We run 70,000 Tidal jobs a day. it would take a mountain of people months to run that many jobs manually. View full review »
MosesGujjarlapudi
Tidal Administrator at Devon Energy
Tidal enables the administrators and users to see the information that is relevant to them. We do have a logs tab that we go through. The errors point us in the right direction where we need to troubleshoot our issues. Depending on the issue, remediation does not take too long. With the varied features in the varied adapters provided, we use Tidal Enterprise Scheduler because we want everything to be scheduled in one place. Tidal provides that for us with its tools and varying platforms in our organization. Tidal provides all the connectors to the platforms. This is very useful because we don't want to look for another scheduler for scheduling certain jobs. We don't want to look at those schedules manually between platforms. With Tidal, we just need to maintain the dependency, ensure the job is on the platform, and make sure the predecessor runs. We just set this in Tidal and forget about it. Sometimes, it does reduce overtime hours. It's not a full-blown automation tool, but we usually set up monitoring. In the olden days, people used to do this with shadow scripts, cron jobs, etc. Now, we are using Tidal and have a call-in mechanism that is triggered from it. So, we do use Tidal for certain automations. View full review »
reviewer1323876
Automation Manager at a financial services firm with 1,001-5,000 employees
The product helps our company in the way that we've engineered it using bespoke jobs that we've written in a clever way. There's nothing directly at the moment. That might change as we move into the cloud, depending on which cloud we go with or on the adapters that they use, e.g., if they have native S3 adapters or events that can fire Lambda functions, which are a bit more interesting to us. View full review »
Shahaan Dalal
Production Control Engineer at a healthcare company with 201-500 employees
It helps because we have brought in a lot of other applications and systems where we're able to use an enterprise-level scheduler that is consistently monitored and backed up and has a ton of redundancy so that we don't have any downtime. We're pretty close to 99 percent uptime on our scheduler. It has reduced some of our weekend and overtime hours. For us, it's all based on the programming around the scheduler. For some teams, it has greatly reduced weekend and night hours, but for some people it hasn't because they babysit the process. Tidal has also helped us increase capacity in terms of the number of jobs. Over the last three years we've added between 10,000 and 15,000 jobs. View full review »
DianeMiller
IT Vendor Manager at a paper AND forest products with 5,001-10,000 employees
The solution’s drill-down functionality is really good. It can be limited to just seeing a specific job or a group of jobs, depending upon the person's location. We utilize Tidal for updating other computer systems used within the plants with JD Edwards transactions. This functionality alone saves a lot of time so personnel didn't have to manually run jobs to update the other systems. View full review »
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