2019-10-15T09:40:00Z

Nutanix and vSAN: Which is best for cloud services?


Hello,

We have to make a big investment in hyper-convergent infrastructure to offer services in the Cloud (SAAS, IAAS).

We are looking at two technologies:

  • VMware with vSAN 
  • Nutanix (only AOS component as we already have VMware vSphere as hypervisor and NSX and vRA for automation)

Which one do you recommend? And why?

Thanks,

Nicola

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Real User

If you are locked in on VMware vSan, VMware makes more sense.

If you have an open mind about open source systems, Nutanix might make more financial sense. since you could utilize the Acropolis hypervisor included with Nutanix.

Both systems have the capability to run a very large environment successfully.

2019-10-15T14:09:35Z
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Top 20Real User

Hands down VSAN.

I am certified in all three platforms (Nutanix, VSAN, and VxRAIL). There was a time where I would have pushed toward Nutanix over vSAN but those days are behind us.

If you were looking at doing Hyper-V SSD, I would highly recommend you do Nuntanix instead.

The only reason to look at Nutanix anymore is if you are doing HCI without VMware at all.

And if you are doing vSAN, you may really want to look into VxRail. It is like the easy button for vSAN maintenance and management. VxRAIL has a lot of the add-ons for vSAN already part of the package.

2019-10-16T03:57:53Z
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Consultant

Both techs are mature and will fit your specifications. To be honest you have to consider the full scope to make your decision:
- Which certification/skills are yet available in your operation/support team?
- What are the other component, HCL, support matrix?
- Which approach are you going to use for deployment, release management, provisioning, automation?

Do not ask to tell if Mercedes is better than BMW without other information than the company name.

2019-10-15T12:59:39Z
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Top 5Real User

We use neither of the technologies below, but in my previous investigation, I thought Nutanix was better then vSAN but everything is relative by the scope: which services will be offered? VDI? Virtual APPs? Citrix?

For VDI/Citrix infrastructure, Nutanix is better.

2019-10-15T12:12:21Z
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User

This really depends on your use case and which interface you are comfortable with.

You also have to consider the skillset in your environment, as you mentioned that you already have vSAN, vSphere, NSX and vRA).
If the above VMware Licenses have years of support ahead, then there is no need to invest in a different solution. HCI from VMware works fine but it is a vendor lock-in option, Nutanix gives you the choice of hardware and Hypervisor.

Sometimes we have to show all the cards and you make the decision.

2020-03-02T21:42:16Z
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User

I think that if your hyper-converged solution is VMware (vSphere, NSX, and vRA) could be the same vSAN or Nutanix. But you can have a solution that is cheaper without losing performance and security with Nutanix if you will use AOS + AHV.

Nutanix consumes more on-premise infrastructure than public cloud and I recommend doing a hybrid cloud. Creating a public cloud is good but it isn´t differential.

Why?

Nutanix is the first hyper-converged (the inventor) solution and its way is different than the others. Nutanix has adapted as the customer uses the public cloud in a private-cloud because Nutanix was born with a cloud-native philosophy. VMware with vSAN is a transformation of virtualization to give an SDS solution. For this, I think Nutanix is better for cloud solutions (hybrid and private).

2020-02-06T12:35:13Z
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Real User

From my understanding both solutions are great. As I’m familiar with Nutanix, I will support this solution as since I’m hosting around 300+ VMs on this solution, I can sleep well at night. No expected downtime almost.

There is a solution provided by HPE to avoid customers making a big investment in HCI. Instead, they can convert it into pay as you grow services instead of big investment in the start.https://www.hpe.com/my/en/services/flexible-capacity.html

It is called HPE Greenlake. HPE is also partners with Nutanix to bring the solution to the customer. So, customers can host their own private cloud on Prem with OPEX expenses. No big investment in the start and can save a lot of company expenses.

Dell EMC also offers the same services as vSAN services. If I’m who were to make the decision, I would engage HPE and Dell EMC to do a requirement study and present it to me. The most beneficial services that meet my cost and objective will be selected.

2019-10-17T08:05:43Z
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Top 20Real User

Before giving out a recommendation it is important for me to understand more of your ideas. There are a lot of great solutions in the market, each with its own strengths and weaknesses.
Please give more insight into your cloud idea:
- Private, public or hybrid cloud? Multi-hybrid cloud?
- Which workloads are planned? massive consolitation, mix of VMs and containers, known workloads (private Iaas with Cloud-like consumption) vs unkown workloads (Public or private cloud with mature self-servive), licencing aspects (no details please!), e.g. Oracle on this platform?
- Plans for scale & growth
- Is there a chargeback business plan in place?
- SLAs for backup, restore (RTO&RPO), Uptime, number of locations planned, distance between locations
- Anything else that is useful to us (and you are allowed to talk about)

2019-10-17T08:04:11Z
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User

vSAN is the best solution based on their current environment.

2019-10-15T14:12:05Z
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User

It has many aspects about this, but ease of use and TCO are far better on Nutanix in most cases. If you are considering micro partitioning and cloud services I would say it's even more easy to go the Nutanix way.

But again I don’t know your starting point and needs.

2019-10-15T13:14:19Z
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Top 5Real User

Nutanix is intelligent hyper-convergent

2020-03-03T12:02:40Z
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Top 5Reseller

Both Technologies are equality quiet good.
Nevertheless one thing you have to put into considerations is that you literally have a VMware environment already setup.
Going ahead with vSAN might prove to be the best option especially when it comes to the necessary VMware solution upgrade that will be continuously being introduced.

2020-02-04T13:20:48Z
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Vendor

The best solution for your existing VMware environment is HPE SimpliVity!

If you need to achieve the following there is no 2 questions about what the best technology solution for your environment would be

HPE SimpliVity includes:

1. SPEED - uncontested performance
2. Data Protection - superior redundancy
3. Real TCO cost saving - 90% capacity savings across all storage and backup combined
4. Backup solution built into the technology already (no 3rd party backup product needed)
5. Artificial Intelligence built into the technology already (HPE Infosight self-managing, self-optimising and self-healing capability resolve 85% of 1st and 2nd line support calls)

HPE SimpliVity is available on CAPEX, or alternatively, OPEX via HPE Greenlake (pay-for-what-you-use) Financial Models

1. HPE Greenlake "free's up" your CAPEX for alternative projects
2. Provides you with the Financial flexibility you need
3. Puts you in a position where you can manage your budget much more accurately and save cost

2019-11-19T11:12:54Z
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Top 5LeaderboardReal User

Well, I would suggest, if you are very conversant with VMware and already have the required licenses, it would be best to go for VMware in this case. But if you opting only for Nutanix AOS, it is not wise to make mix match Nutanix and VMware.

Nutanix should be used as a complete solution end-to-end to really know it capacity. It has all the features that VMware has.
My suggestion would be to go for a full complete Nutanix solution.

2019-11-18T12:19:30Z
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Vendor

I recommend HPE SimpliVity Hyperconverged for this requirement reason being:

1. Uncontested SPEED and performance (60 seconds to backup, clone, move, restore a 1TB VM).
2. Superior Redundancy – no other HCI technology can provide FTT #3 (multiple HDD failure tolerance) with only 2x systems like HPE SimpliVity does.
Backup is built-in already with AUTO Rapid DR
3. Significant TCO Saving – HPE SimpliVity saves customers 90% capacity saving across all storage and backup combined

Please kindly visit the following 3 min customer story which should be very interesting to you

"Propelling Sunway into the Digital Future with HPE SimpliVity” – link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ7omczJ9Qs (3mins)

HPE SimpliVity Bundles Promo attached provides you with a complete solution with VMware license & support included!

2019-10-17T05:51:35Z
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User

I'm not a huge fan of either, but what is the goal? Is it speed? More than 1M IOPS? Is it automatic fail over with no touch fail back? Is it
increased App performance?

If I knew what was driving the decision I could better help.

2019-10-16T12:37:14Z
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Top 5Real User

I recommend Nutanix because I already have the second solution with the same configuration and it very stable.

2019-10-16T09:07:37Z
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Vendor

I would seriously consider a 3rd option, being Scale Computing. They can really provide you with a system that will drastically reduce your TCO, simplify operations, yet providing scalability and reliability throughout your solution. Feel free to check their website www.scalecomputing.com or give them a call at 877-722-5359

2019-10-16T07:32:10Z
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Vendor

If you are a VMware user, it would be great to try SimpliVity as your hyper-converged solution, not only for your Data virtualization platform (high compression and deduplication rates) but the ROI rates related to data efficiency.

2019-10-15T20:43:50Z
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Vendor

Both of these are competitors of the company that I work for so I do not feel that I can respond to which is better than the other for Cloud without seeming to be potentially biased. My best PERSONAL advice would be to strongly consider your cost of acquisition, ownership, the ROI, the workloads you intend to support and that your current infrastructure is reliant on.

2019-10-15T17:43:12Z
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User

My belief is that Nutanix provides customers a much less complex and less expensive total Cost of Ownership experience.

From what I’ve seen in my experiences, the vSAN solution requires significant administrative overhead for maintaining optimized performance, where Nutanix maintenance is much more automated.

There are other advantages but this is what I focus on most when differentiating the two.

2019-10-15T17:30:30Z
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