2017-11-15T12:32:00Z

HPE ProLiant DL Servers vs IBM Power Systems

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SL
Aug 18, 2022
Aug 18, 2022
How often does a fire occur in a proper data center? With 35 years of experience, I have never had one or even came close. I guess as often as a Boeing hits a building.
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Richard Artes - PeerSpot reviewer
Mar 10, 2021
No, i've been working it IT for 20 years and never seen a fire in a server room (yet). However I have seen a flood when there was a particularly heavy rainstorm that flooded the car park and then made its way into the basement of the office block. The rain was so heavy it set all the car alarms off in the car park. It's like insurance, you hope you never need it. But one day you just might.
CvanderH - PeerSpot reviewer
Mar 10, 2021
I have never experienced a fire in a data center but have seen some hazardous server rooms.  It basically comes down to insurance and how badly damaged the equipment is and if not you have a redundant/fail-over/disaster recovery solution in place.  Fire damage like water damage means game over, you will be looking to replace all IT equipment.  Apart from physical damage you must also take downtime into account.  So it's weighing up the cost of replacing the data center and downtime versus a fire suppression system. You may find this article interesting:https://www.missioncriticalmag...
it_user828861 - PeerSpot reviewer
Mar 6, 2018
Mar 6, 2018
For rack servers you have two paths - Large Vendor support and White box. In the White Box market you can save a few dollars and build your own - but then self insure, as all subsequent issues with software and driver incompatibilities and problems are on you. This is a small ball play and is worth considering if you have extra time to diddle the bits and bytes yourself, do the testing and do...
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BW
Mar 6, 2018
For rack servers you have two paths - Large Vendor support and White box. In the White Box market you can save a few dollars and build your own - but then self insure, as all subsequent issues with software and driver incompatibilities and problems are on you. This is a small ball play and is worth considering if you have extra time to diddle the bits and bytes yourself, do the testing and don't have to interact with a lot of users, developers and management. If you are responsible for managing a larger shop you need to go with a major vendor and have four choices - in alphabetical order - Cisco, Dell, HPE and Lenovo. As we look forward in the rack and blade server evolution, the hardware is a commodity dictated by Intel and all vendors release cadence is tied to Intel releases. But you have rapidly come to realize the hardware is the least of your concerns, you are much more focused on software and how these vendors are evolving their solutions to increase automation efficiency, reduce setup time and increase time to repair in the event of a complex software failure. Of the 4 I like the direction Cisco is taking with its SW acquisitions in this space. It has deployed Stealthwatch for security, Tetration for Analytics, Turbonomics for workload optimization and App Dynamics for adaptive automation. This and its investment in cloud services and focus on the hybrid cloud environment, keeps them looking beyond the hardware - which is less than 30% of the IT cost of a system - and squarely focused on reducing the OpEx costs that account for 70%. Moving forward into the great Utility computing model - with some pieces offsite at a colo, some onsite in local wiring closets or a mini data center or some compute and storage in a major cloud provider - Amazon, Azure, Rackspace, etc - you are rapidly moving to a hybrid environment where the latency of network connections, middleware that provides connectors to far flung operations that respond back to end-users creates a complex scenario where monitoring. measurement and protection will determine how efficiently I can deliver services and provide the end-user experience my customers demand. That said let me be clear this is not a full-on rah-rah section for Cisco. They have a superior vision, a unique architecture that facilitates automation in their blade environment, the cash and focus on acquisitions. I just wish they were faster at providing the integrations that will deliver on the seamless solution space they imagine. But they have many great pieces - and if I were a person seeking to understand this market and where things are headed I would pay close attention to their concept of the "Intent-based Data Center". This vision is similar to IBM's Utility Computing from more than a decade ago - but Cisco has more critical pieces - all around commodity hardware.
it_user188481 - PeerSpot reviewer
Mar 6, 2018
You know, it really depends. How many people are you supporting? What's your budget? Is it replacing something that may need data migrated? What kind of support will you need afterwards? What applications do you need to run and how long can you afford for the application to be offline in the case of system going down?
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