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We performed a comparison between erwin Data Modeler by Quest and SAP Signavio Process Manager based on real PeerSpot user reviews.

Find out in this report how the two Business Process Design solutions compare in terms of features, pricing, service and support, easy of deployment, and ROI.
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Pros
"There is absolutely no problem with the stability.""The most valuable features are being able to visualize the data in the diagrams and transform those diagrams into physical database deployments. These features help, specifically, to integrate the data. When the source data is accumulated and modeled, the target model is in erwin and it helps resolve the data integration patterns that are required to map the data to accommodate a model.""It has centralized storage so that a data model can be shared by different teams.""We use the Forward and Reverse Engineering tools to help us speed things up and create things that would have to be done otherwise by hand. E.g., getting a database into a data model format or vice versa.""It's a safeguard for me because I'm always concerned that somebody is free handing it and will forget a key coming from the parent. The migrating keys are a great feature. Identifying relationships, non-identifying relationships, and being visually right there to understand the differences are great features. erwin is key to being able to visually understand whatever the customer is requesting. They'll give you words on a paper, but once they can actually view it as a picture, it really comes to life. The data comes to life to where they understand exactly what they're asking for.""erwin has versioning so you can keep versions, over time, of those models and you can compare any version to any version. If you're looking at a specific database and you want to see what changed over time, that's really useful. You can go back to a different version or connect that to your change-control processes so you can see what was released when.""It allows us to create logical data models. We can represent a database model in business terms, which is very useful for us.""The modeling portion of the tool is the most valuable. There are some notes, naming standards, and other functions that we use as well. There's a whole boatload of functionality in this thing and we use maybe 10% of it. It seems to be pretty common that not all the functionality is fully utilized. But it's just got gobs and gobs of stuff that you can implement if you so choose to."

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"A complete business project management suite which seems to open endless possibility.""Version management is helpful because I like to try different versions and then decide which of them should be the main model.""The solution is user-friendly.""The visual representation is extremely powerful and easy to use in process modeling and analysis. I can show it to someone who doesn't know business process mapping, and they still understand because it's visually presented. It becomes easy to explain variants and what needs to change.""The product's most valuable feature is the transformation process.""The most valuable feature is the glossary. It is really nice because all of the information is centralized, and that is a big help to the company.""The feature that I like the most is the collaboration hub, where every user or every employee can see the process in the overview.""The solution provides data mining and AI features."

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Cons
"It does not have a cloud application.""The interface must be improved.""I would like to see the ability to support more NoSQL platforms more quickly. In addition, enhancing the graphics to render more quickly would be beneficial for any user.""erwin is not as robust as a data warehousing project I've been on in the past.""The erwin Data Modeler is quite complex to use.""In terms of new features, it would be great to have a cloud base. We should be able to put it on the cloud for better collaboration and data models sharing.""I still use Visio for conceptual modeling, and that's mainly because it is easier to change things, and you can relax some of the rules. DM's eventual target is a database, which means you actually have to dot all the Is and cross all the Ts, but in a conceptual model, you don't often know what you're working with. So, that's probably a constraint with erwin. They have made it a lot easier, and they've done a lot, but there is probably still room for improvement in terms of the ease of presentation back to the business. I'm comparing it with something like Visio where you can change colors on a box, change the text color and that sort of stuff, and change the lines. Such things are a whole lot easier in Visio, but once you get a theme organized in erwin, you can apply that theme to all of the objects. So, it becomes easier, but you do have to set up that theme.""Although Quest Software has made tremendous strides in recent years, they need to evolve more in the big data arena; erwin Data Modeler could use a little more work when it comes to big database designs."

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"There is room for improvement in analytics. People don't realize it, but the world has changed in the last six to eight months. Customers want to see AI like ChatGPT and ML capabilities in all aspects of business processes and reporting.""The product's pricing could be improved.""The workflow automation of the solution is an area of concern where improvements are required.""I would like to see the inclusion of some document management functionality so that we don't need to integrate with a second solution to accommodate this.""The solution’s pricing could be improved.""There is room for improvement in the reporting function. At the moment, for example, while it is possible to report on how many users you had in the last month, you can't use it to tell you how many users you had from the first week to the second week. This is really a drawback because when you have an activity to promote Signavio or BPI, it would be good to be able to measure how many people you had in the system.""It could be more flexible from a customization point of view, where the user is able to display only whatever he needs.""It is not easy to learn the product."

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Pricing and Cost Advice
  • "The primary reasons that erwin was selected were that it was much more affordable for us [than Embarcadero] and it was easily maintainable."
  • "This company had bought the license for three years, and it's not an individual license. While you can buy a license for each individual, that would be very expensive. There is something called concurrent licenses where you can purchase licenses in bulk and 15 to 20 people can access the license and model. Concurrent licenses are scalable to the number of users and are proportional to the cost."
  • "An issue right now would be that erwin doesn't have a freely available browser (that I am aware of) for people who are not data modelers or data engineers that a consumer could use to look at the data models and play with it. This would not be to make any changes, but just to visually look at what exists. There are other products out there which do have end user browsers available and allow them to access data models via the data modeling tool."
  • "The price should be lower in order to be on the same level as its competitors."
  • "I wish it wasn't so expensive. I would love to personally buy a copy of my own and have it at home, because the next job that I'm looking at is probably project management and I might not have access to the tool. I would like to keep my ability to use the tool. Therefore, they should probably have a pricing for people like me who want to just use the solution as an independent consultant, trying to get started. $3,000 is a big hit."
  • "There are no costs in addition to the standard licensing fees."
  • "I don't specifically know what we're paying now. About three years ago, in another organization, I have this memory of 6,000 AUD a seat or something like that, but I am not sure. In the mid-2000s, it was something like 1,200 AUD a seat. I get the impression that there was a price jump when it was spun off from CA as a separate company, which is understandable, but it could sometimes be a barrier in some organizations picking it up. I haven't talked to erwin people yet, but I'm going to suggest to them that they could perhaps think of having an entry-level product that is priced a bit lower, and then, you can buy the extra suite."
  • "The price of erwin Data Modeler is very expensive, in particular for this part of the world."
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  • "Lower than the competition with highly flexible licensing plans."
  • "My client purchased one editor license and the collaboration hub, which covers up to a hundred people."
  • "I think that the price of the licenses is between $2,000 USD and $3,000 USD per license per year, plus the hub usage. I cannot remember the exact cost, but it is affordable."
  • "I think we're spending about $150,000 a year on licensing costs."
  • "SaaS has no setup cost, just licensing fees."
  • "This solution provides really great value for the money."
  • "We are only able to use the free academic licenses because we have a financial constraint. We are not able to pay for commercial licenses to use this kind of tool."
  • "Although Signavio is a feature-rich solution, it is expensive for companies who haven’t reached a certain maturity level in their process management initiatives."
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    Questions from the Community
    Top Answer:Forward engineering, DDL generation, reverse engineering, and reporting are the most valuable features of the solution.
    Top Answer:The solution's model mark could be better because it crashes sometimes.
    Top Answer:SAP Signavio Process Manager is a very robust industrial-grade business process modeling tool. It is easy to use and does not require too much technological involvement. This solution has a… more »
    Top Answer:The visual representation is extremely powerful and easy to use in process modeling and analysis I can show it to someone who doesn't know business process mapping, and they still understand… more »
    Top Answer:We have a yearly basis license. We don't find it too expensive for our use case. It helps us harmonize processes and those processes result in significant effort saving, then the product is paid for… more »
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    Also Known As
    erwin DM
    Signavio Process Editor
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    Overview

    erwin pioneered data modeling, and erwin Data Modeler (erwin DM) remains trusted, award-winning software for data modeling and database design, automating complex and time-consuming tasks. Use it to discover and document any data from anywhere for consistency, clarity and artifact reuse across large-scale data integration, master data management, metadata management, Big Data, business intelligence and analytics initiatives – all while supporting data governance and intelligence efforts.

    The Signavio portfolio of web-based business transformation solutions helps companies to understand and optimize all of their business processes quickly and at scale, providing instant insights for informed decision-making. Signavio’s intuitive analysis, change management and execution solutions around process excellence include use cases like digital transformation, operational excellence and customer-centricity, placing them at the heart of global organizations.

    Over 1 million users in more than 1,500 organizations worldwide rely on Signavio products to make processes part of their company’s DNA. Headquartered in Berlin, Germany, Signavio was founded in 2009 to address the need for a collaborative approach to process management.

    Signavio was acquired by SAP in the first quarter of 2021. For more information, visit www.signavio.com

    Sample Customers
     Premera, America Honda Motors, Aetna, Kaiser Permanente, Dental Dental Cali, Cigna, Staples
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    Top Industries
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    Financial Services Firm28%
    Insurance Company21%
    Government14%
    Energy/Utilities Company7%
    VISITORS READING REVIEWS
    Financial Services Firm19%
    Government10%
    Computer Software Company9%
    Manufacturing Company8%
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    Manufacturing Company13%
    Healthcare Company13%
    Financial Services Firm10%
    Retailer8%
    VISITORS READING REVIEWS
    Manufacturing Company14%
    Financial Services Firm11%
    Computer Software Company11%
    Energy/Utilities Company7%
    Company Size
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    Small Business33%
    Midsize Enterprise7%
    Large Enterprise60%
    VISITORS READING REVIEWS
    Small Business16%
    Midsize Enterprise10%
    Large Enterprise74%
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    Small Business21%
    Midsize Enterprise9%
    Large Enterprise70%
    VISITORS READING REVIEWS
    Small Business17%
    Midsize Enterprise12%
    Large Enterprise71%
    Buyer's Guide
    SAP Signavio Process Manager vs. erwin Data Modeler by Quest
    May 2024
    Find out what your peers are saying about SAP Signavio Process Manager vs. erwin Data Modeler by Quest and other solutions. Updated: May 2024.
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    erwin Data Modeler by Quest is ranked 9th in Business Process Design with 37 reviews while SAP Signavio Process Manager is ranked 6th in Business Process Design with 57 reviews. erwin Data Modeler by Quest is rated 8.6, while SAP Signavio Process Manager is rated 8.2. The top reviewer of erwin Data Modeler by Quest writes "The product lets users import different types of models, but it is expensive, and the interface must be improved". On the other hand, the top reviewer of SAP Signavio Process Manager writes "Has many functionalities and is used to model processes to the former operating model". erwin Data Modeler by Quest is most compared with SAP PowerDesigner, IDERA ER/Studio, Visio, Lucidchart and Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect, whereas SAP Signavio Process Manager is most compared with Celonis, ARIS BPA, Camunda, Visio and ADONIS. See our SAP Signavio Process Manager vs. erwin Data Modeler by Quest report.

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