Senior Partner at AGLC Consulting
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Solution that can be used on all levels
Pros and Cons
  • "It is the most stable solution provided by SAP and can be used on all levels."
  • "Their yearly licensing is expensive. Improvements are needed on the user experience level and digital work."

What is our primary use case?

Most of my clients use it for controlling finances and for BI (purchasing and sales). Depending on the activity, we can also use it for logistics and plan management, like in energy module ISU — it's a specific module for energy, oil and gas distribution.

What needs improvement?

There's lots of improvement to be made on the user experience level and digital work. Since SAP is a transactional software, you can't use it like Salesforce. It's not easy to create automated reports.

For the user experience, they can try to get out of the strictly industrial point of view because it's an IT solution. It's not always the most fun application the use. It's pretty complicated and if you're not fully trained for it, it isn't easy to understand how it works.

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been using it for the last four years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

S/4 HANA is the most stable solution provided by SAP.

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What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

The scalability is very good. That's the good thing about the S/4 HANA solution.

How are customer service and support?

Support is quite good; they know their solutions. Over the last few years, they changed all the resources that were on the first S/4 HANA program. They're pretty efficient. There's always a contract with them for support. Normally, regular support is done internally, but when it comes to SAP bugs, when we can't solve the problem, we go back to SAP support and can rely on them.

How was the initial setup?

Setup is complex. SAP is the biggest ERP on the market. We like to say it's the Rolls-Royce of ERPs. So it can't be deployed without a minimum of 10 to 20 consultants, plus approximately the same kind of resources on the business level.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

Licensing is quite expensive. It works with yearly licenses and it's ugly. 

What other advice do I have?

I would rate this solution an eight out of ten.

For maintenance of the solution, the number of people needed depends on how many users you have. Basically, now we use TMAs most of the time, but for smaller conditions, it would be a minimum of 10 people. It depends on the number of modules that you have. For example, with my last clients, we had a regional team of 20% plus an external team of more than 10% and it was really not a big deployment or activity.

For full deployment, the time it takes depends on the complexity of the deployment and the number of processes to review. In a normal situation, basic roll out would be between four to six months and a global project or program can take up to three to five years. It also depends on the number of sites because you have to deploy the solution, and once you have the core model, you need to perform a roll out on every site and do all the necessary training. I've worked on programs before that lasted five or six years with major companies where there were over 700 sites. It's difficult to do more than 50 or 60 sites per year, and even with that, it's complicated. With one of my prior clients, it was a 10-year program.

With regular companies, there are more than five to seven thousand users and with major ones, on my biggest project, we had 30,000 users worldwide.

The solution can be used on all levels.  On the IT level, it's a tool that we deploy to enable the tracking of client processes, but it can be used on every level. It's commonly used for finance control, sales and purchasing because those are the biggest parts when managing client TNLs. Depending on the activity, if you're not a big client, you can go down to MRP level, managing all the logistics and all the productivity. It can be used by everyone.

Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

Public Cloud

If public cloud, private cloud, or hybrid cloud, which cloud provider do you use?

Microsoft Azure
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Practice Head at Arete Global
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Top 5Leaderboard
Access critical dashboards and reports in real-time, reduced implementation time and hardware-optimized for fast memory executions
Pros and Cons
  • "The speed of executing reports has increased significantly. We no longer need day-minus-one business processing."
  • "There might be some restrictions in the public cloud."

What is our primary use case?

It has been used across various verticals, including billing, sales, business, and pharmaceuticals. It has been implemented in different business verticals.

How has it helped my organization?

Apart from the core business processes, the performance has been drastically improved. The speed of executing reports has increased significantly. We no longer need day-minus-one business processing.

In the past, we had to extract, transform, and load data (ETL cycle), and only then would we get critical dashboards and reports the next day. Now, it's available in real-time data, within the same instance, on a single click. This is a major improvement.

Everything is available in S/4HANA. It's really good. There might be some restrictions in the public cloud, but in the private cloud, anything you can think of can be made available. That is the best part of S/4HANA.

What is most valuable?

S/4HANA stands for high-performance analytic appliance. 90% of activity is done on the hardware side, as it supports fast memory executions.

Initially, it was SAP ECC 6.0, but then they introduced faster execution processes and best practices for different verticals. It gives an advantage on top of what is being used across different businesses. They have introduced best processes altogether.

The implementation time has also been reduced drastically. We start by showing the customer the best practices and configurations. This is a major difference from before when we used to understand their "as-is" process and then design the "to-be" process.

Now, we get acceptance on the best practices early on and only do customizations where necessary. Most customers prefer this approach because they are changing their business to match best practices rather than us changing the software to match their business.

Additionally, there are public and private editions of the product. The private cloud is owned by the customer, giving them full control over customizations. The public cloud is controlled by SAP, which offers only best practices that customers accept, knowing they align with industry standards.

What needs improvement?

One disadvantage is the introduction of multiple products. In older versions, everything was in a single package. Now, we need separate licenses for different functionalities: S/4HANA Cloud for human capital management, SuccessFactors for talent management, and Ariba for procurement. For advanced components, we need S/4HANA for enterprise portfolio and project management. 

Additionally, if we purchase SuccessFactors, we also need to add integration tools like SAP Cloud Platform Integration. So, it's like buying a basic bundle (starting from 65 or 25 FPUs) and then adding more components and integrations later, each with its own license fees. Essentially, they have changed the model to introduce multiple products with new license fees.

Everything is available and works well in S/4HANA. There might be some restrictions in the public cloud, but in the private cloud, you can make anything available.  

For how long have I used the solution?

I am a consultant; we don't use it in-house. We work with SAP. It has been almost nine to ten years since we started with S/4HANA side.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

The private cloud is 100% stable. The public cloud still needs some time; it's 90% stable, but 10% still needs enhancement.

Private cloud is ten out of ten, and public cloud is nine out of ten.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

It is a very scalable solution. 

How are customer service and support?

The customer service and support are good. 

How would you rate customer service and support?

Positive

How was the initial setup?

S/4HANA deployment is easier than previous versions.

Deployment time:

The deployment time depends on the complexity of the business. 

For a public cloud implementation with standard business processes, it takes three to four months, with the fifth month for support. 

For a private cloud implementation, it may take five months or more, depending on the customizations and configurations needed. The number of consultants and the complexity of the business processes are the most important factors.

Moreover, the maintenance is easier now.

Integration into existing infrastructure: 

 There are multiple options for integration depending on the products. For SuccessFactors, you can either use SAP Cloud Platform Integration (CPI) or the SuccessFactors Integration Suite. 

In the Middle East, where I work, there's a government-mandated e-invoicing system that requires integration with S/4HANA. 

Like Ariba, that also needs to be integrated. In this version, integration options have been expanded. Previously, it was only SAP Process Orchestration (PO) that handled integration, but now there are more options available.

What about the implementation team?

For a private cloud implementation, a team of eight or nine people: six consultants for the core modules, one basis consultant, one technical consultant, and one project manager. 

For a public cloud implementation, the number of consultants is reduced to six.

What was our ROI?

ROI has multiple aspects. In the initial days with ECC, costly hardware with depreciation cycles was necessary. Moving to the cloud reduces those expenses. Within three to five years, ROI is very good. 

Additionally, the need for data centers, DR sites, and skilled maintenance teams is eliminated, drastically reducing costs within five years compared to SAP ECC.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

It's expensive when opting for a private cloud but cheaper on a public cloud.

For private clouds, the price could have room for improvement. It is a bit on the higher end. 

The license is subscription-based. The users can lock in licenses for three, five, or even seven years. The agreed-upon pricing on day one applies yearly for the chosen duration. This is available for all SAP products.

Clients don't have to pay extra for support, maintenance, or other things. So, the subscription includes everything.

What other advice do I have?

For S/4HANA, my recommendation is that finance is very strong. They have improved. SD (Sales and Distribution) in finance has been strong since day one, but now they have also improved the purchase cycle significantly. They have introduced multiple products like IBP (Integrated Business Planning), which has improved their planning for production and the entire manufacturing process. 

Considering this, I would recommend S/4HANA Private Cloud as of now. SAP is working very hard on S/4HANA Public Cloud as well, so in one or two years, the public cloud might be the best option.

Overall, I would rate the product a nine out of ten. 

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Technical Director at DynaSys
Real User
Top 20
With an easy initial setup in place, the solution offers scalability and stability together
Pros and Cons
  • "Stability-wise, I rate the solution a ten out of ten...Scalability-wise, I rate the solution a ten out of ten."
  • "There are some problems with the support provided for the solution, so it is not quite easy. It takes some time for them to offer us support."

What is our primary use case?

Many look for companies and partners who can help them implement SAP S/4HANA. So, we help in the implementation phase. We provide ongoing support as well.

What is most valuable?

The new features introduced by SAP S_4HANA are the ones I find to be valuable.

What needs improvement?

The support and price of the solution need to be improved. The solution should incorporate some new innovations.

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been using SAP S/4HANA for a decade. My company has a partnership with SAP.


What do I think about the stability of the solution?

Stability-wise, I rate the solution a ten out of ten.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

It is a scalable solution. Scalability-wise, I rate the solution a ten out of ten. We have small, medium, and enterprise-sized clients using the solution.


How are customer service and support?

I rate the technical support an eight out of ten. There are some problems with the support provided for the solution, so it is not quite easy. It takes some time for them to offer us support.


How would you rate customer service and support?

Positive

How was the initial setup?

On a scale of one to ten for initial setup, where one is difficult, and ten is easy, I rate initial setup as ten since it is very easy.

The deployment process took about ten months. We need six people for implementation, which includes one or two system architects to handle the technical field, while the others are mostly business consultants. For maintenance, we have a team of about 20 people to support our customer base.


What was our ROI?

The solution is worth the money.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

I rate the pricing a ten on a scale of one to ten, where one is cheap and ten is too expensive. It is an expensive tool.

What other advice do I have?

Those planning to use the solution need to fully understand it because it's not quite fit for most customers. Overall, I rate the product a ten out of ten.

Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

On-premises
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Associate director at a consultancy with 10,001+ employees
Real User
Top 20
ERP business solution that offers built-in comprehensive functionality for all major departments
Pros and Cons
  • "S/4HANA offers a lot of additional capability with respect to performance due to its in-built architecture for many functions including finance, production, quality, manufacturing, inventory or sales distribution and logistics."
  • "The integration could be made a little simpler in terms of design and implementation."

What is most valuable?

The features you have access to when using this solution depends on which format or version you use. If an organization uses the SAP ECC version, this is an older version and multiple things would be the same at a process execution level and architecture level. However, S/4HANA offers a lot of additional capability with respect to performance due to its built-in architecture for many functions including finance, production, quality, manufacturing, inventory or sales distribution and logistics. SAP offers many capabilities with respect to enhanced functionalities, process improvement and better analytics.

SAP has introduced a lot of management functionality from a sales distribution perspective. The finance module offers a lot of reports as well as the offering of Fiori, which is a UI5 based tool which can be installed in each and every handheld devices for the purpose of approvals.

In the transportation module, which is a part of the sales distribution, SAP offers modifications and enhancements.

What needs improvement?

SAP offers a lot of products now and all the capabilities are available from one service provider. However, the knowledge needed for the implementation of these capabilities isn't widely shared and so product knowledge in the market isn't comprehensive. This makes it challenging to fully take advantage of all the capabilities. We would like to have access to tutorials. 

The integration could be made a little simpler in terms of design and implementation. SAP should integrate easier with other third party systems. Industry specific retail or FMCG related industries can't directly rely on SAP with respect to the POS integration or the eCommerce integration. 

For how long have I used the solution?

I have used this solution for ten years. 

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

This is a stable solution. 

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

This is a scalable solution but some companies face challenges in terms of migration when it comes to the material ledger, COPA cockpits or the introduction of the actual costing. It again depends upon the expertise of the consultants who are doing the implementation but is not part of a product bug.

How are customer service and support?

We have consulted directly with SAP when it comes to completing the initial implementation. When it comes to going live and if we encounter any major issues which cannot be resolved by implementation partners, then we contact the platinum consultants at SAP. 

There is an option to pay for managed services and support from SAP.

How was the initial setup?

The complexity of the setup depends on the organization. If the organization is using ECC then the setup is straightforward. If the organization is using another product like Oracle or Microsoft Dynamics, it is a big change migrating to SAP S/4HANA.

The size of an organization and volume will also impact the complexity of the setup. A mid-size organization would require an in-house team for maintenance. This maintenance is important as lack of specific activities or tasks could cause mishaps in the entire system. 

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

SAP is a costly product in terms of maintenance for an organization who has reached a particular level. For organizations, like PepsiCo and Coca-Cola, they rely heavily on this solution and cost is not as issue for companies of that size.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

I complete a comparative analysis when an organization is running on a legacy ERP. We provide the review services and pre-implementation services where this is a very common question. We complete a feature comparison analysis for Oracle versus SAP or Microsoft Dynamics 365 versus SAP. The most common outcome is that SAP is the best product overall. 

What other advice do I have?

This solution can be implemented in multiple ways. One is the on-premise model where the organization has to manage servers and administration related activities on their own. The second is the cloud deployment model that requires some kind of public cloud or private cloud. There are multiple service providers who can help with cloud deployment. The third option is a hybrid model. You can complete a cost benefit analysis and have a mix of this kind of development.

I would rate this solution a ten out of ten. 

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NAWAL SAXENA - PeerSpot reviewer
SAP Project Manager at Saudi Cable Company
Real User
Helpful technical support, plenty of features, and secure
Pros and Cons
  • "The solution is flexible, has a lot of functionality, and has the ability to deliver more security than other comparable solutions."
  • "SAP S4HANA is not suitable for all-size companies. If you have a small company there are better fit solutions for your needs."

What is our primary use case?

SAP S4HANA is used as a complete resource planning solution for our organization.

What is most valuable?

The solution is flexible, has a lot of functionality, and has the ability to deliver more security than other comparable solutions.

What needs improvement?

SAP S4HANA is not suitable for all-size companies. If you have a small company there are better fit solutions for your needs.

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been using SAP S4HANA for approximately five months.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

We have found that SAP S4HANA is more reliable and stable than other solutions, such as ECC.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

The solution is scalable.

How are customer service and support?

The technical support is very good. We have generated support tickets, and they have provided helpful advice and solutions to our problems in a timely manner.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

I have used many other solutions, such as ECC and Business One.

How was the initial setup?

The installation and cloud configuration was straightforward.

We had some issues with the installation of the solution. The implementation partner we were using was in India and they could not travel to where we are in Saudi Arabia because of the Covid-19 pandemic making resolutions difficult. Additionally, the communication was difficult. However, this was not the fault of SAP S4HANA.

What about the implementation team?

We used the S/4HANA implementation team to do the full implementation.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

There is a license required for the use of this solution and we are on a monthly subscription. The cost of the solution is expensive compared to other solutions. 

What other advice do I have?

I would recommend this solution to others. However, they have to make sure it is the right fit for their environment. If they have a small company that has approximately 200 to 300 users then this solution is not the best for them, SAP Business One would be the better choice for their whole business cycle. S/4HANA is for larger-scale companies with more users.

I rate SAP S4HANA an eight out of ten.

Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

Private Cloud
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Chief Executive Officer at Redment
Real User
Highly scalable, stable, and plenty of features
Pros and Cons
  • "The functionality of SAP S4HANA is very good when comparing it to others, such as Oracle, Microsoft, and other ERP solutions."
  • "Thi solution can improve the Bill of Materials (BOM) and production planning."

What is our primary use case?

SAP S4HANA is a resource-plaining solution that can help with digital transformation by using features, such as robotic process automation. It has very useful functionality but, at the moment, AI is not very natural in the world.

Our company is very large and out of the largest six modules in SAP S4HANA, we use Material Management, Sales and Distribution, Plant Maintenance, Quality Management, Customer Service, and Production Planning.

We use all modules in accounting, for example, Financial Supply Chain Management, Treasury Management, and Project System. In the warehouse, we use Transportation Management and Extended Warehouse Management and in the HR system, we use Personnel Administration, Payroll, and Time Administration.

How has it helped my organization?

SAP S4HANA robotic process automation has helped our organization by reducing approximately 80% of work in the accounting department.

What is most valuable?

The functionality of SAP S4HANA is very good when comparing it to others, such as Oracle, Microsoft, and other ERP solutions.

What needs improvement?

Thi solution can improve the Bill of Materials (BOM) and production planning.

In an upcoming release, the Product Lifecycle Management (PLM) in SAP is very simple, and SAP should extend PLM in the ERP system. Additionally, SAP S4HANA should add more advanced features for monitoring in the database, such as in the Oracle solution.

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been using SAP S4HANA for approximately five years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

The solution is very stable.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

The solution is highly scalable.

We have more than 6,000 people using this solution in my organization.

How are customer service and technical support?

We are not able to use technical support in my country because in Iran it is sanctioned. However, we have not needed the support, the solution has been working well.

How was the initial setup?

The initial setup of SAP S4HANA is a very complex and time-consuming process. If you want to implement all modules then it will take more than 10 days.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

The price of the solution is reasonable but some modules can be expensive. When comparing SAP S4HANA to other solutions, such as Oracle, it is not expensive.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

I have evaluated other solutions, such as Oracle.

What other advice do I have?

I would strongly recommend this solution to others.

I rate SAP S4HANA a nine out of ten.

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CIO & HEAD IT at H-ENERGY
Real User
Top 5
An easy-to-use enterprise solution with features such as high availability and connectivity
Pros and Cons
  • "The tool's most valuable features are ease of use, high availability, and connectivity."
  • "The product should improve its cost."

What is our primary use case?

We use the solution as an enterprise application. 

What is most valuable?

The tool's most valuable features are ease of use, high availability, and connectivity. 

What needs improvement?

The product should improve its cost. 

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been using the product for two years. 

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

I rate the tool's stability a ten out of ten.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

I rate SAP S/4HANA's scalability a seven out of ten. My company has 2000 users who use it daily. 

How was the initial setup?

I rate the tool's ease of deployment an eight out of ten. 

What about the implementation team?

A third-party consultant helped us with the deployment. 

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

SAP S/4HANA is expensive. 

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

We evaluated Oracle before SAP S/4HANA. 

What other advice do I have?

I rate the overall product a six out of ten. 

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Provides good performance, processes, and integration with modern technologies
Pros and Cons
  • "The solution's most valuable features are performance and processes."
  • "The solution’s pricing could be reduced."

What is our primary use case?

Many companies are currently going for SAP S/4HANA because the maintenance for their SAP ERP or SAP ECC will be over the next year. Even their extended maintenance will be over by 2028. Some companies have gone for mergers and acquisitions and want common processes across their entities. Hence, they chose a good ERP system like SAP S/4HANA.

What is most valuable?

The solution's most valuable features are performance and processes. Following its integration with cutting-edge modern technologies like SAP BTP, the solution is now better positioned to cater to most of an organization's functions.

What needs improvement?

The solution’s pricing could be reduced.

For how long have I used the solution?


What do I think about the stability of the solution?

The solution has provided good stability to some of our customers. The stability of the solution during one of the big projects we did in 2022 was phenomenal.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

About 90% of our customers work with SAP S/4HANA.

How are customer service and support?

The solution's technical support team is fast and knowledgeable.

How was the initial setup?

The solution’s initial setup is straightforward.

What other advice do I have?

I would recommend the solution to other users. It is generally a good option to migrate from non-SAP to SAP solution. Using a comprehensive product like SAP S/4HANA provides many benefits, such as best processes and integration with other technologies.

Overall, I rate the solution an eight out of ten.

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