Compare CA Gen vs. Compuware Topaz Workbench

CA Gen is ranked 2nd in Mainframe Application Development with 3 reviews while Compuware Topaz Workbench is ranked 1st in Mainframe Application Development with 7 reviews. CA Gen is rated 8.6, while Compuware Topaz Workbench is rated 7.2. The top reviewer of CA Gen writes "Allows us to easily manage all changes and requests, coding is easy". On the other hand, the top reviewer of Compuware Topaz Workbench writes "Replacing ISPF tasks with Topaz Workbench". CA Gen is most compared with Compuware Topaz Workbench and IBM Rational Developer for z Systems , whereas Compuware Topaz Workbench is most compared with IBM Rational Developer for z Systems , CA Gen and CA Brightside. See our CA Gen vs. Compuware Topaz Workbench report.
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Pros
Full packets, enable you to develop software and systems using these packets, and implement software on the mainframe side and the client side. You can use the same packets, so it's very powerful.CA Gen has provided us web development capability.You can easily manage the code, and you can easily find other changes, other group changes, other models, other components.

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The smart editor helps because it will code-complete for me. I can see code working a lot faster and I'm able to get things coded in less time.We can develop in parallel today on ISPF, but it's giving us the advantage of the newer interface into the mainframe programming languages that younger programmers can use and are familiar with, rather than using the ISPF green screen.The most valuable feature of Topaz is Xpediter. It's more flexible than Xpediter through MVS.It helps our staff work by speeding up their documentation process.Once we got the configurations and deployment rolled out, it was very stable. I haven't had any major issues with Eclipse or the Topaz Workbench plugins.It's a modernized development portal and helps reduce the learning curve for younger people coming in to work on the platform,From a user perspective, the GUIs make it easier for people to see and interact with files on the mainframe.

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The product needs to be well marketed, then adopted. I am not seeing many customers using the product.I cannot use DB2 specifications, DB2 comments, easily.

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I'm waiting to see what 19.2 for Topaz looks like, but I have a problem with the JES Explorer right now. It limits you to a certain prefix for job names and there are some groups that have multiple prefixes that they'd like to see all at once in their job names, because of how they work in a group. And they can't see that in the JES Explorer.The ability to edit source code that has special characters is limited. The ability to incorporate or convert REXX into macros that are usable under the Topaz software is not there. And the REXX macros that I have developed over 40 years of work are useless, so I have a toolbox I can't use or deploy using the Topaz technology, while I can use it under MVS.It's not as intuitive as it should be. In terms of navigation, there is a large training curve for using it. For a millennial it might be better, if they're used to Eclipse. But coming from a non-Eclipse environment and using Eclipse, though I have experience with Eclipse, it might be cumbersome.It often doesn't play well with other plugins in the environment.It would be nice to have an audit trail to see what mainframe developers are using what.It would be good if the vendors would work together or at least have some collaboration between them, so they would know what would work and what wouldn't work. Right now, the way things are working, they're relying on the customer to make everything work.The area for improvement is related to the testing tools that are available for unit testing or acceptance testing. I know they have some out there that we are not licensed for at this time, but it seems like some of the Eclipse tools that are used for other programming languages, they're all just built-in and they're a little more intuitive to the developers. Making those testing tools as intuitive as possible, and as integrated as possible into the workbench, would be really beneficial.I'm always looking for improvement in things like the documentation, to make things a little bit easier and simpler to understand, a place where people can go to troubleshoot issues.

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In general, Compuware tools are very competitive.It has saved our developers time and effort when working on documentation, which is now more readable and fluent.In terms of pricing, there isn't an extra charge for the parts of it we use. It comes with the licenses we purchased for other products, so no complaints there. The licensing is built in with the other products that you purchase from Compuware.The only thing I would mention related to the licensing and/or the pricing, is that they have some visualization features in there that are licensed by concurrent users. We're starting to trip up on that. We're looking to probably increase the number of concurrent licenses that we have. But those types of licensing strategies, where they license by concurrent users or the number of seats is confusing for some people. They don't understand why it works sometimes and doesn't work other times.

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Overview
CA Gen provides a single, integrated development environment that can help your teams create and maintain large-scale business applications for multiple platforms. This streamlined environment can help reduce manual labor and speed migration time while ensuring the future relevance of existing environments and applications.

Topaz Workbench provides an intuitive interface that enables developers of all experience levels to initiate Compuware’s industry-leading developer tools, Abend-AID, File-AID, HiperstationXpediter and Strobe, as well as non-Compuware products and distributed solutions in the same environment.

Through Topaz Workbench, mainframe teams can:

  • Access Compuware development tools, providing the ability to visualize complex application logic and data relationships, make changes to code, test and debug, and performance tune
  • Leverage existing Eclipse frameworks and integrations with popular open-system tools
  • Manage source code and promote artifacts through the development lifecycle via integration with ISPW
  • Leverage a multi-language, multi-platform source code editor
  • Use JES functions like job submission, review, print and purge
  • Use Host Explorer for z/OS navigation, including dataset management (i.e., allocation, recall, deletion); build mainframe projects to isolate and quickly access files associated with a unit of work
  • Copy files from one LPAR to another with a simple drag and drop or right click; data is compressed and the processing is zIIP enabled for optimal performance
  • Leverage integrations with other industry-leading tools
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