it_user346131 - PeerSpot reviewer
System Engineer at a energy/utilities company with 1,001-5,000 employees
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The peak loads on a software install for VDI desktops now have lower latency. If the price for SSDs comes down and we can switch everything to flash, that would be an improvement.

What is most valuable?

The features most valuable to us are--

  • A-SIS deduplication
  • vServer DR, which is a new feature in v8.3.1

How has it helped my organization?

The peak loads on a software install for VDI desktops now have lower latency. Previously, we had a 3240 with HDDs. For normal operation the HDDs with flash cache were fine, but for virus scans and software installations/patching, we would start at midnight and end at three or four am. However, sometimes at four deduplication operations would start and that runs concurrently with the installation that isn’t complete. So as a consequence, we had terrible latency until 11 or 12 so our users were unhappy with that situation. With the AFF, we have absolutely no problem at all.

What needs improvement?

It’s still new so the only thing I can think of is if the price for SSDs comes down and we can switch everything to flash, that would be an improvement.

For how long have I used the solution?

I've used it for three years. We're currently running VDI on it with ONTAP.

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What was my experience with deployment of the solution?

We had an easy deployment because we have a VMware environment where we use vMotion from the old FAS to the new AFF.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

Very stable, 100% uptime.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

It scales to our needs.

How are customer service and support?

Customer Service:

8/10.

Technical Support:

8/10.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

We used FAS and we switched because of the above reasons.

How was the initial setup?

It was straightforward.

What about the implementation team?

We used a vendor team who were 10/10.

What was our ROI?

Straightforward.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

The situation before was terrible; we had things to do and couldn’t. It was a high pressure situation. 3,000 people couldn’t work for four hours. Now they can start working on time.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

No other options were evaluated.

What other advice do I have?

It’s a good product, performs well and is easy to get up and running. If you need the speed, go for it.

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VP Systems Integrator at a financial services firm with 10,001+ employees
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Being able to network multiple 880 series together to increase speed is nice.

Valuable Features:

The speed, we have multiple apps with high IO requirements (Hadoop, Mongo, and some monitoring tools), we’re using our monitoring tools to spin up and spin down our environment.

Improvements to My Organization:

Flexibility, being able to network multiple 880 series together to increase speed. We’re building a four head environment with goal of 500,000 IOPS/second. With the amount of data from monitoring tools and data storage, we need incredible speeds.

Use of Solution:

We've been using NetApp products for 15 years.

Stability Issues:

No issues encountered, and none are anticipated.

Scalability Issues:

As we continue forward, we can add additional heads with same IOPS.

Other Advice:

From what we’ve seen so far, we’re very happy with potential.

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NetApp vs. XtremIO

Is there another storage platform as feature rich as NetApp FAS?

I think it is fair to say that NetApp FAS running Clustered Data ONTAP is a very feature rich platform – the move to the clustered version of ONTAP has brought many next-generation features including Scale-out and Non-disruptive Operations.

As a benchmark let’s compare FAS to EMC’s solutions – I fully appreciate that EMC has taken a best of breed approach, but my feeling is that for most non-enterprise customers this is not a sustainable strategy – customers want simplicity and ease of use, and you are not going to get that by deploying four different storage platforms to meet your needs.

I have chosen EMC because they are the overall market share leader and they have the broadest set of storage products available – so let’s compare FAS with VNX, VPLEX, XtremIO, Isilon and Data Domain:

NetApp FAS supports All-Disk, Hybrid Flash and All-Flash data stores - that meet the needs of any kind of application workload

The VNX is a very good All-Disk and Hybrid Flash array and XtremIO is a very good All-Flash array, but you need two completely different products to provide the functionality.

NetApp FAS eliminates silos and provides seamless scalability - to address Server Virtualisation, Virtual Desktop, Database and File storage needs in one scale-up and scale-out solution, that can start small and grow large

VNX is optimal for general Server Virtualisation and Databases and XtremIO excels when it comes to large scale Virtual Desktop and ultra-high performance database requirements. The VNX scales-up, but not out, and XtremIO scales-out, but not up.

NetApp FAS has fully unified SAN and NAS storage - to enable consistent management across all protocols and therefore flexibility in their use

VNX has a separate NAS OS which requires its own management (but it is integrated into a single UI along with SAN), XtremIO is SAN only and Isilon is NAS only.

NetApp FAS provides many storage efficiency technologies - including De-duplication, Inline Zero Write Elimination, Compression, Thin-Provisioning, Zero-cost Cloning and High-performance Double Disk Protection

XtremIO is excellent at all of these (just lacks the Double Disk Protection which I believe it will get shortly), neither VNX or Isilon are anywhere near as strong.

NetApp FAS has Flash optimised writes - with a SSD warranty that has no restrictions on the number of drive writes

As expected XtremIO excels whereas VNX and Isilon are not optimised.

NetApp FAS provides 24×7 continuous availability - including proven enterprise RAS, Non-disruptive Operations, and Metrocluster Site Protection

Neither VNX or XtremIO provide the ability to perform Non-Disruptive Operations like FAS. Introducing VPLEX does provide these capabilities along with excellent Metrocluster site protection.

NetApp FAS has integrated data protection - with near instant creation of snapshot based backups and automated offsite replication

Neither the VNX or XtremIO have these capabilities, to a lesser extent Isilon comes close, but it is limited to the workloads it supports (i.e. it cannot be used for Server or Desktop Virtualisation). EMC’s data protection solutions are typically built using their Data Domain De-duplication appliances and conventional backup software (interestingly they have started to integrate Data Domain directly with the replication engine within the new VMAX3 – no doubt a sign of things to come).

NetApp FAS is Public Cloud integrated - to support hybrid Disaster Recovery and Cloud Bursting

Currently there is no VNX equivalent of Cloud ONTAP for AWS, but this is expected sometime in 2015.

NetApp FAS is designed for VMware vSphere - with support for Virtual Volumes, VAAI, Site Recovery Manager and vCenter management

As expected VNX and XtremIO have support for all the relevant integrations with vSphere. Where FAS has an advantage is that NetApp have already announced support for Virtual Volumes so existing hardware will be able to take advantage of Virtual Volumes – not sure we will be able to say the same about VNX.

NetApp FAS is designed for VMware Horizon View - with support for high-performance hardware accelerated Full Clones (using VAAI) and Linked Clones (using VCAI), and up to 160,000 IOPS at 80% Writes per array

As expected for large scale Virtual Desktop projects XtremIO excels and the only area where it is lacking is that it doesn’t support VCAI as it requires NFS.

NetApp FAS is designed for Microsoft Hyper-V - with support for SMB 3.0 Continuous Availability Shares and Offloaded Data Transfer (ODX)

VNX has good support, whereas XtremIO lacks support for both SMB 3.0 and ODX.

I am confident that you could substitute EMC with any other storage vendor and you would end up with the same result – no single storage platform is anywhere near as feature rich as FAS.

So is FAS and Clustered Data ONTAP perfect?Absolutely not, there are undoubtedly areas whereby the traditional SAN arrays still have advantages (mostly around active/active controller architectures and metrocluster capabilities).

So what else would I like to see from FAS?

  • Sharing of drives across controllers – we are already starting to see this with the new drive and Flash Pools partitioning features
  • Detaching of the drives from the controllers – so that the failure of an HA pair within a cluster does not result in downtime
  • MetroCluster
    • Granular fail over - so volumes or even Virtual Volumes can be “moved” between sites
    • IP replication - either using FCIP bridges or native IP connectivity
    • Active/Active - so volumes/LUNs can be active on both sides of the cluster
  • Erasure coding – to eliminate idle spares and enable rapid drive rebuilds
  • Encryption – provided by the controllers rather than drives
  • Advanced QoS – to enable setting of Service Level Objectives rather than just limits
  • Integrated file archiving – to move older files to secondary storage or the cloud

Conclusion

I truly believe that there is no single storage platform that comes close to matching the range of capabilities of a NetApp FAS, but what do you think?

Do you work for a vendor or are you an end-user of a competitive storage platform? If you are let me know what you think – what are the downsides of the FAS architecture from your point of view?

Disclosure: My company has a business relationship with this vendor other than being a customer: We are Partners with NetApp.
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it_user264375Emergency Medicine Resident at King Saud University
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System Administrator at a government with 201-500 employees
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Stable and scalable with good interface, configuration, and flexibility
Pros and Cons
  • "It has a good interface. Its configuration and flexibility are also good."
  • "Its integration could be improved."

What is most valuable?

It has a good interface. Its configuration and flexibility are also good.

What needs improvement?

Its integration could be improved.

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been using this solution for a few years. I am using NetApp FAS AFF A300.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

It is stable.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

It is scalable.

How are customer service and technical support?

I am satisfied with their technical support.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

I have been using NetApp solutions for the last 15 years. I have also used EMC, which is also good, but flexibility-wise, NetApp is better.

How was the initial setup?

Its initial setup is easy. The deployment took a few days.

What other advice do I have?

I would rate NetApp FAS Series a ten out of ten.

Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

On-premises
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Ease of use, stablility, and excellent support have been the prime benefits for us

What is our primary use case?

We use it for data storage.

How has it helped my organization?

We have more storage capacity. Managing it is easier and it's available anytime we want it.

What is most valuable?

  • Ease of use
  • Availability

What needs improvement?

Everybody's moving to the cloud. We, as a financial company, are moving to it as well. We need to find out what about the security of the information that we have on it. That's the main thing that they need to talk be talking about. How secure is that information?

For how long have I used the solution?

Three to five years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

The stability is extremely good. It's very stable. We've been running it for about four years now. We haven't had any hiccup with it so far. Okay, there have been a few here and there, but they have been easy to resolve with the engineers that we have.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

The reason we have it is that it's very scalable.

How are customer service and technical support?

Technical support is excellent. We have an excellent team with NetApp. They help us and they are available anytime that we need them.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

We knew we needed to invest in a new solution because everybody is moving forward. We don't want to stand still.

How was the initial setup?

The initial setup was straightforward. They had all the codes with them, they just implemented them on the system and, next thing we knew, it was up and running.

What about the implementation team?

We used a consultant for the deployment. Our experience with them was extremely good. They knew what they were talking about, they made it easy, and didn't take a long time.

What was our ROI?

The amount of data that's stored is increasing day by day. We are a financial company so we have new customers every day and we need to keep their information safe and secure. It definitely has that return on investment in that we didn't have to invest in something else, outside of what we have now.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

There was one other option we looked at but it didn't have the scalability. It also didn't have the support that we needed. The experience that we have with NetApp support is excellent.

What other advice do I have?

I would definitely encourage colleagues to go ahead with it. I have had a great experience with it. I would definitely encourage them that this is the way to go.

I rate this product at ten out of ten. It's easy. Once you know your way around it, there is nothing to it. You can do it in a flash.

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it_user527397 - PeerSpot reviewer
Systems Architect at University of Iowa
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The systems actually started acting like real computers, not like a virtual system.

What is most valuable?

The valuable feature for us was, we started our VMware solution on a mid-tier NetApp solution. When we went to All Flash FAS our changes went form about a 5 or 10 millisecond response time to 1 millisecond. The systems actually started acting like real computers, not like a virtual system.

How has it helped my organization?

The benefits for our organization are that our customers actually noticed, and that's pretty hard to do sometimes. It was really good because they actually noticed the response times changing and that our virtualization system actually became more responsive for them.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

Our stability has been very good. We haven't seen any down-time for five or six years probably.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

Scalability on NetApp is unforeseen. I'm sure we're going to buy more. I'm sure the fact that we are using clustered NetApp, we can take that stuff and move the next heads into the next cluster and then just migrate things, and nobody notices in the background. That's probably the best thing about the scalability.

How is customer service and technical support?

The technical support is really good. We don't use it that much because I have a few guys on my team that are really good with the product. But the technical support, whenever we need them, is great. We actually work with Sirius Computer Solutions, our partner. They help us figure out where we should upgrade to. They'll come in and they'll do technology things to make sure that we are going for the next solution that will help our product.

How was the initial setup?

We did the initial setup. I would say it was an eight out of 10. There were some issues but it was okay. They helped us fix it, and we figured it out. That's mostly because we just like to do it ourselves, because we want to see what we're doing and what's in our datacenter.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

Yes, we evaluated other solutions but the NetApp solution seemed to be the best one for what we were doing, and for simplicity of moving from the current solution to the next solution.

What other advice do I have?

If a colleague was evaluating storage solutions I would tell them to buy NetApp. The decompression, the dedup, all those things that happen, are just better then everybody else's platform.

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IT Business Partner at a tech services company with 1,001-5,000 employees
Consultant
We have seen a speed improvement, and our applications are a lot faster

What is most valuable?

  • The Flash component for performance
  • The management
  • ONTAP
  • The features that ONTAP now has with the availability to work with the cloud.

How has it helped my organization?

We have seen a speed improvement, and our applications are a lot faster.

What needs improvement?

Probably on the management side of things. It is very complex.

For how long have I used the solution?

Probably six months.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

Not really.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

It is pretty scalable.

How are customer service and technical support?

Tech support is very good, so give it an eight out of 10.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

It was an older system. It was a disc based system. So, we were looking for performance improvement.

It was a natural progression from the previous system, so it was just more of an upgrade rather than a new system.

How was the initial setup?

It was reasonably straightforward. We received a lot of knowledge on the net about ONTAP systems, so the setup has improved.

What other advice do I have?

The NetApp ONTAP system is a very good system to work with and use. Very versatile and once you know how things work in the NetApp world, then it makes it very easy to keep the systems for a long time, to work with them, and they work very well.

It is a brand new system, and it works extremely well. Performance improvements are as expected.

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Storage Admin at Bay View Financial Trading
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​Speed, storage efficiency mean no complaints from customers and we don't have to buy as much space

What is most valuable?

  • Easy to manage.
  • It's quick. It's very fast.
  • We've been getting something like 27-to-1 compression, so it's been really good.

How has it helped my organization?

Because of the speed and storage efficiency, we have no complaints from the customer and we don't have to buy as much space, because we can compress it.

What needs improvement?

I know we're looking at cloud solutions, so maybe if they have something cloud-based, that might be something. It could be important soon. Right not it's not but it could change soon for us.

For how long have I used the solution?

Two years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

We haven't had any down-time yet. So far the disks are really reliable, so I'm happy about that.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

We haven't had to buy any new flash for a while because of the compression. So far, being able to compress the data has been able to help us save money on buying more disks.

How are customer service and technical support?

I haven't had to use it yet. I've been able to do it myself so far.

NetApp's been responsive on other issues. So far, on the flash side, I haven't had any issues to have to call them.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

We needed something quick for our SQL DBAs, so that was the recommended path that we take, and it's been great so far.

We were using the 600 Gig drives, regular SCSI drives, and they weren't fast enough. We switched because of the complaints of how slow the disk worked prior to us moving over to the flash.

How was the initial setup?

We had a vendor help us, but it seemed like it was pretty straightforward.

What other advice do I have?

Our primary use case is for SQL databases. We use it for block storage.

We are more likely to consider NetApp for a mission-critical storage system, based on our experience, because of the speed. We have a cluster, so the high availability. Those are the two.

Most important criteria when selecting a vendor:

  • Dependability, like at 3:00 in the morning, if I need help, they're there. That's really number one for me.
  • The willingness to be able to train me so I can do it and I don't have to constantly call them.

Those are the two, my major factors.

To a colleague in another company who's researching a similar product I would say, "Go for it." If they don't want to be woken up in the middle of the night saying their backups are slow, they've got to go with the fast disks.

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