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We performed a comparison between Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics and Talend Data Management Platform based on real PeerSpot user reviews.

Find out in this report how the two Data Integration solutions compare in terms of features, pricing, service and support, easy of deployment, and ROI.
To learn more, read our detailed Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics vs. Talend Data Management Platform Report (Updated: May 2024).
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Q&A Highlights
Question: Which ETL tool would you recommend to populate data from OLTP to OLAP?
Answer: We have experiences only in Pentaho Data Integrator (open source competitor of the Oracle Data Integrator). But OLAP exporting wasn't in our scope until now.
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Pros
"The abstraction is quite good.""Sometimes, it took a whole team about two weeks to get all the data to prepare and present it. After the optimization of the data, it took about one to two hours to do the whole process. Therefore, it has helped a lot when you talk about money, because it doesn't take a whole team to do it, just one person to do one project at a time and run it when you want to run it. So, it has helped a lot on that side.""It has improved our data integration capabilities​.""The graphical nature of the development interface is most useful because we've got people with quite mixed skills in the team. We've got some very junior, apprentice-level people, and we've got support analysts who don't have an IT background. It allows us to have quite complicated data flows and embed logic in them. Rather than having to troll through lines and lines of code and try and work out what it's doing, you get a visual representation, which makes it quite easy for people with mixed skills to support and maintain the product. That's one side of it.""The amount of data that it loads and processes is good.""It has a really friendly user interface, which is its main feature. The process of automating or combining SQL code with some databases and doing the automation is great and really convenient.""The fact that it's a low-code solution is valuable. It's good for more junior people who may not be as experienced with programming.""Pentaho Data Integration is quite simple to learn, and there is a lot of information available online."

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"The solution can run on any machine and that is a big advantage.""I think Talend is one of the easiest tools for faster implementation compared to other tools.""The solution is very user-friendly and easy to understand.""They're very competitive in terms of performance, which is a good selling point. It has very rich features. It provides a very rich feature set in the application.""The features that I like the most are the simplicity of the interface, and the ability to quickly develop with a predefined component.""I like the way that you can use the context variables, and how you can work those context variables to give you values and settings for every development environment, such as PROD, TEST, and DEV.""Talend Studio has the ability to connect to almost anything to integrate data from files, databases, web services, etc.""We can develop our own code if we do not see the functionality we need."

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Cons
"​I could not connect to our Hadoop environment in an easy and flexible way, and it was important to scale our data warehouse​.""The web interface is rusty, and the biggest problem with Pentaho is debugging and troubleshooting. It isn't easy to build the pipeline incrementally. At least in our case, it's hard to find a way to execute step by step in the debugging mode.""I have been facing some difficulties when working with large datasets. It seems that when there is a large amount of data, I experience memory errors.""Lumada could have more native connectors with other vendors, such as Google BigQuery, Microsoft OneDrive, Jira systems, and Facebook or Instagram. We would like to gather data from modern platforms using Lumada, which is a better approach. As a comparison, if you open Power BI to retrieve data, then you can get data from many vendors with cloud-native connectors, such as Azure, AWS, Google BigQuery, and Athena Redshift. Lumada should have more native connectors to help us and facilitate our job in gathering information from these new modern infrastructures and tools.""I'm still in the very recent stage concerning Pentaho Data Integration, but it can't really handle what I describe as "extreme data processing" i.e. when there is a huge amount of data to process. That is one area where Pentaho is still lacking.""If you develop it on MacBook, it'll be quite a hassle.""The support for the Enterprise Edition is okay, but what they have done in the last three or four years is move more and more things to that edition. The result is that they are breaking the Community Edition. That's what our impression is.""In the Community edition, it would be nice to have more modules that allow you to code directly within the application. It could have R or Python completely integrated into it, but this could also be because I'm using an older version."

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"The documentation from version to version could be more accurate.""Performance and speed could be improved.""They lack in memory capacity.""The sales and market department could improve the Talend Data Management Platform.""I think they should drive toward AI and machine learning. They could include a machine-learning algorithm for the deduplication.""I would like to sync a project and do an upload from that current version, and then from GitLab, be able to download the latest one.""I'd be interested in seeing the running of Python programs and transformations from within the studio itself.""Including either XML or JSON in the next release would definitely be a good transformation. I'm not sure if Talend has that feature, but it's one of those requirements that we are working around and have to do some parsing of XML so this could make it easier."

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Pricing and Cost Advice
  • "There is a good open source option (Community Edition)​."
  • "The price of the regular version is not reasonable and it should be lower."
  • "Sometimes we provide the licenses or the customer can procure their own licenses. Previously, we had an enterprise license. Currently, we are on a community license as this is adequate for our needs."
  • "It does seem a bit expensive compared to the serverless product offering. Tools, such as Server Integration Services, are "almost" free with a database engine. It is comparable to products like Alteryx, which is also very expensive."
  • "I think Lumada's price is fair compared to some of the others, like BusinessObjects, which is was the other thing that I used at my previous job. BusinessObject's price was more reasonable before SAP acquired it. They jacked the price up significantly. Oracle's OBIEE tool was also prohibitively expensive."
  • "When we first started with it, it was much cheaper. It has gone up drastically, especially since Hitachi bought out Pentaho."
  • "The cost of these types of solutions are expensive. So, we really appreciate what we get for our money. Though, we don't think of the solution as a top-of-the-line solution or anything like that."
  • "The pricing has been pretty good. I'm used to using everything open-source or freeware-based. I understand that organizations need to make sure that the solutions are secure, and that's basically where I hit a roadblock in my current organization. They needed to ensure that we had a license and we had a secure way of accessing it so that no outside parties could get access to our data, but in terms of pricing, considering how much other teams are spending on cloud solutions or even their existing solutions, its price point is pretty good. At this time, there are no additional costs. We just have the licensing fees."
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  • "License renewal is on a yearly basis."
  • "The pricing is a little higher than what I had expected, but it's comparable with I-PASS competitors."
  • "The solution's pricing is very reasonable and half the cost of Informatica."
  • "The licensing cost is about 40,000 Euros a year."
  • "The price of the Talend Data Management Platform is reasonable. The other competing solutions are priced high. Gartner Magic Quadrant identified other solutions, such as Informatica, that are far more expensive."
  • "The price is on a per-user basis. It's a little more expensive than other tools. There aren't any additional costs beyond the standard licensing fee."
  • "The tool is cheap."
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    Answers from the Community
    RajneeshShukla
    AThiré - PeerSpot reviewerAThiré
    User

    There are two products I know about
    * TimeXtender : Microsoft based, Transformation logic is quiet good and can easily be extended with T-SQL , Has a semantic layer that generates metat data for cubes . price approx 40K$, works with tables
    . Attunity (Bought by Qlik) : technology agnostic , nice web interface , expensive > 100K€. Works with transaction logs

    There are many other pure ETL tools
    * ERWIN has a nice one ,

    Phil Wilkins - PeerSpot reviewerPhil Wilkins (Capgemini)
    Consultant

    Depends upon the technologies being used. If you're using Oracle for both OLTP and OLAP then you'll get a lot of value from an Oracle solution.


    The other question is how up to date do you want your OLAP DB to be? Goldengate is a good answer if you're looking to minimize latency, but it can be expensive. ODI is less expensive but better suited to bulkier data sets.  If an Oracle product wasn't the option I'd probably consider something like Informatica.

    Karoly Krokovay - PeerSpot reviewerKaroly Krokovay
    Real User

    Hi Rajneesh,
    yes here is the feature comparison between the community and enterprise edition : www.hitachivantara.com

    And a short description of the community edition: www.predictiveanalyticstoday.com

    And the download link: community.hitachivantara.com

    You can ask more from the great community: forums.pentaho.com

    Regards
    Károly

    Stefan Schäfer - PeerSpot reviewerStefan Schäfer
    User

    We usually use Talend.
    Look here: community.talend.com

    GaryM - PeerSpot reviewerGaryM
    Real User

    As someone mentioned, if you're purely Oracle shop and staying that way then there's value with prioritizing Oracle tools.  However, let me contrast that with this caveat...


    Consider expectations for tool and vendor longevity. Oracle has a long history of retiring and/or replacing tools leaving customers in the cold with prior versions/tools (I've been burned multiple times by Oracle product retirements or replacements including OWB, Oracle Designer2k, Oracle Express, Oracle OEDW, their purchase of Sagent ETL which as later abandoned).


    But I would also consider these questions and relative prioritization:  


    What is your organization's plans for moving to other database technologies?  


    Where is your org going with on-prem versus cloud solutions?  How important are PaaS versus IaaS solutions?  


    Where is your current staff's expertise?  


    Prioritize mature over immature tools. 


    How many sources do you have?  What are their technologies and does the integration tool support them?


    Is it just moving data from a single ERP such as Oracle EBS to Olap? When you say Olap what do you mean by that?  Are you talking Oracle Olap product or something else?  That makes a really big difference of course - if your ETL tool doesn't support your source(s) and target(s) then it shouldn't be considered.


    Given the industry's trajectory, I myself would highly prioritize PaaS solutions over others.

    Yeap Jiun Aing - PeerSpot reviewerYeap Jiun Aing
    Real User

    What is the OLAP that you are using? Hosted in Cloud or on-premise? 


    The target DB should have its tool to extract data.

    Efe Dagistanli - PeerSpot reviewerEfe Dagistanli
    User

    Pentaho is a really nice tool if opensource is the only option. 


    Please think about issues such as upgrade and disaster in the future. These operations are very easy in Pentaho.


    I can only suggest one thing for replication and that is Qlik. (ex-Attunity).

    RajneeshShukla - PeerSpot reviewerRajneeshShukla
    Real User

    Hi Karoly, Thanks for your input. community: forums.pentaho.com is not allowing new registrations for new users. I guess they accept queries from customers only and not from any one. Do you know any other forum, community, SMEs contacts who can help on queries?

    Questions from the Community
    Top Answer:Hi Rajneesh yes here is the feature comparison between the community and enterprise edition :… more »
    Top Answer: In my opinion, the reporting side of this tool needs serious improvements. In my previous company, we worked with Hitachi Lumada Data Integration and while it does a good job for what it’s worth, it… more »
    Top Answer:My company has used this product to transform data from databases, CSV files, and flat files. It really does a good job. We were most satisfied with the results in terms of how many people could use… more »
    Top Answer:We can develop our own code if we do not see the functionality we need.
    Top Answer:The vendor successfully created a cloud solution. However, lifting and shifting all the functionality available on-premises will be a heavy task. They are working on it. The product must enhance the… more »
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    Overview

    Pentaho Data Integration stands as a versatile platform designed to cater to the data integration and analytics needs of organizations, regardless of their size. This powerful solution is the go-to choice for businesses seeking to seamlessly integrate data from diverse sources, including databases, files, and applications. Pentaho Data Integration facilitates the essential tasks of cleaning and transforming data, ensuring it's primed for meaningful analysis. With a wide array of tools for data mining, machine learning, and statistical analysis, Pentaho Data Integration empowers organizations to glean valuable insights from their data. What sets Pentaho Data Integration apart is its maturity and a vibrant community of users and developers, making it a reliable and cost-effective option. Pentaho Data Integration offers a range of features, including a comprehensive ETL toolkit, data cleaning and transformation capabilities, robust data analysis tools, and seamless deployment options for data integration and analytics solutions, making it a go-to solution for organizations seeking to harness the power of their data.

    Talend offers robust data integration in an open and scalable architecture to maximize its value to your business. Simple, graphical tools and wizards get you up and running quickly with native code generation that streamlines development.
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    Buyer's Guide
    Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics vs. Talend Data Management Platform
    May 2024
    Find out what your peers are saying about Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics vs. Talend Data Management Platform and other solutions. Updated: May 2024.
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    Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics is ranked 15th in Data Integration with 48 reviews while Talend Data Management Platform is ranked 22nd in Data Integration with 17 reviews. Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics is rated 8.0, while Talend Data Management Platform is rated 8.4. The top reviewer of Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics writes "It's flexible and can do almost anything I want it to do". On the other hand, the top reviewer of Talend Data Management Platform writes "Built for everything and packed with features but there are some monitoring limitations". Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics is most compared with SSIS, Azure Data Factory, Talend Open Studio, Oracle Data Integrator (ODI) and AWS Glue, whereas Talend Data Management Platform is most compared with Talend Open Studio, Talend Data Fabric, SAP Data Services, Collibra Catalog and SSIS. See our Pentaho Data Integration and Analytics vs. Talend Data Management Platform report.

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