EMC VNX [EOL] vs HPE 3PAR Flash Storage

EMC VNX [EOL] is ranked unranked in All-Flash Arrays with 24 reviews vs HPE 3PAR Flash Storage which is ranked 1st in All-Flash Arrays with 115 reviews. The top reviewer of EMC VNX [EOL] writes "​The VNX 5700 provides a large number of features including the ability to work for both file and block as a unified array". The top reviewer of HPE 3PAR Flash Storage writes "Provides Veeam integration and the ability to set I/O limits". EMC VNX [EOL] is most compared with HPE 3PAR Flash Storage, Dell EMC Unity and NetApp FAS Series. HPE 3PAR Flash Storage is most compared with Dell EMC Unity, NetApp All Flash FAS and Nimble Storage. See our EMC VNX [EOL] vs HPE 3PAR Flash Storage report.
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Multi-tiering, positively affects the efficiency of the storage space.The replication feature provides another functionality to protect your data.The implementation of both block and file system storage in a single GUI provides is better situated than most other storages.From my point of view, the configuration that I can sell is restricted to the EMC best practices. It is hard to make a mistake in a solution. It means the configuration has good performance and scalability options.It is very stable even during multiple power failures.Integration with VMwareFAST (auto-tiering): Doesn't require configuration and is managed by the array itself.The most valuable feature is the tight VMware integration, due to the migration from bare metal to virtualized environments and then on to the cloud.

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It is easy to add drives. When you add drives into it, it automatically recognizes them and spins them up.We have had it for about two years and had zero problems with it.The clients that we support have a tendency to come at us with unexpected requirements, and we are able to adapt well with the 3PARs.We have used tech support for array expansion, as well as firmware updates. We have had great success with them.We went to an Active-Active data center, set it up to where both data centers are separate, but they act as one. We can have workloads at either side at any given time, and it is all based on the Peer Persistence architecture.Our customers like the analytics side of it.The most valuable features are their tight integration with VMware, their multi-node architecture, and their copy services, such as Peer Persistence.We do not have to take the whole system down to do upgrades.

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If the VNX had embedded encryption, that would be great.The scalability is average because the storage has some hardware limitations and, obviously, operating system limitations.It would be very helpful to get an automated report that shows you the size of the checkpoints and get warnings when a checkpoint is reaching either maximum capacity per a file system or hitting the ceiling on the SavVol pool consumption.The administrative console (Navisphere/Unisphere) needs some improvement, especially on their Java-based GUI. The updated version of Java is not compatible.VNX can improve by offering flexible upgrade options. It's not possible to add a single HDD to a current array and there are fixed rules to make upgrades.EMC VNX needs to support bigger SSD and the Next Generation EMC Unity does this.Poor connection to FC.Intel Xeon processors with under 2 GHz processing speeds could be replaced with more recent ones.

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When you run across a situation where they aren't self-encrypting drives (SEDs), and you need SEDs, then you have to rip and replace everything to get there. It would be nice if they just came by default.We have had a few issues with it. We had our virtual environment lock up a few times on storage-based things. We think we have it sorted out, but maybe it came down to a configuration issue on it.I would like to see NVMe support, not only on the disk side, but also in the NVMe over Fibre Channel.During the initial setup, it was a bit complex in the wiring of the cages.I would like to see compatibility with NVMe.The setup was complex from the perspective of the employees having to go through five days of training. If they simplified the administrative process of maintaining the unit, that would go a long way.I would like to be able to deploy and manage 3PAR within OneView Global Dashboard so we do not have to use the interface for 3PAR.In new releases, I'd really like to see it more targeted towards hyper-converged. They are working that way with Greenlake and integrating their own "build your own" expansion environment within 3PAR.

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​Reducing dependency on JavaServer Pages​ (JSP) could improve the administrative overhead.​The initial pricing and licensing are reasonable, the yearly EMC is more expensivePricing is somewhat higher, especially in Zambia, perhaps due to the low sales volume.Over time, VNX has become pricier than its competitors, and we have turned enthusiastically to Unity.While EMC tends to be on the expensive side, the stability and support of their products are top-notch and I feel are worth the cost.Make sure you understand how the licensing works and that you are getting the right set of licenses if you need array-to-array replication.The initial pricing and licensing are reasonable. Yearly EMC is more expensive.

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The lifespan of the arrays are fantastic, so we can make them stretch for our dollar.Once the project goes in, it's only a small part of the overall spend, because there's training, there's implementation, there's architecture, there's a whole bunch of other things that are hiding behind it. It's done, but you haven't captured all the ROI.For the price that we were able to acquire it, we have seen it give us the performance and stability that we require to run our enterprise.They have added features, such as the compression and duplication, which have further increased our ROI.It is fairly inexpensive to scale.Budget wise, 3PAR is a lot of money compared to other solutions, but what is in the 3PAR integration that customers are getting now from the Nimble and InfoSight acquisitions, it is worthwhile.From a comparison of bang-for-the-buck, what you get for the money, I'd have to say they are one of the market leaders. Are there solutions that do it faster? Sure, but you're going to pay for it. 3PAR isn't the cheapest, it isn't the most expensive, but in my opinion, it's the best.Making the decisions to buy it can be complex.

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Chaan BeardReal User

Actually the answer is neither. VNX and 3Par are both technology best described as yesterday's hero. Look instead to another HPe product called Nimble A series AFA or the AccelStor AFA series. AccelStor are actually delivering frightening performance in their P710-SLED platform which delivers over 400K Mixed load IOPS, has 69TB effective capacity and is fully VMware VAAI integrated and certified for an MSRP of $49,995.00.

Either are so easy to install 8 year old kids can do the job without much head scratching going on.

AccelStor does not charge by capacity and comes with all the software you need baked into the price and this includes snaps, clones, mirrors and full replication capability.

HPe 3PAR and Dell EMC VNX platforms come with capacity based licenses and replication pushes the costs up through the stratosphere.

Between Nimble and AccelStor for the reporting capability the Nimble is very nice but you also pay extra for those nice reporting capabilities, but it is good.

AccelStor gives you what you need to know, no nonsense style - basic reporting but they are working hard currently on new features that bring them up to par with Nimble's fantastic reporting engine.

3Par and VNX are not true All Flash Array platforms by the way, they are Hybrids that accommodate both spinning disk and All Flash SSD. Nimble A series and AccelStor's entire range are purpose built all flash arrays with operating systems designed to cater for all flash only.

www.accelstor.us is their website. Enjoy!

29 May 18

As far as I know, VNX line is no longer available, therefore I think that the real comparison has to be with the Dell EMC Unity family systems

29 May 18
James MercerReal User

Both are fairly old technologies, and frankly speaking, replication is nothing new at all. As another individual stated here, if you want to examine something up-to-date that completely eclipses both 3Par and EMC, HPE Nimble will demonstrate a clearly superior approach to flash and non-flash storage.

29 May 18

I Only used Violin and Purestorage all flash units.
I used 3PAR but is had SAS and SSD drives only.
In my opinion, Violin is first and Pure Storage is the second best all-flash unit

30 May 18
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HP 3PAR all-flash storage accelerates business agility by boosting application performance with over 900,000 IOPS at less than 0.7 ms latency. And it does this while delivering all the enterprise-class, Tier-1 features and functionality you expect from the storage platform that powers three of the world’s four largest managed service providers.

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