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Find out what your peers are saying about HPE 3PAR Flash Storage vs. NetApp AFF (All Flash FAS) and other solutions. Updated: July 2019.
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We have been able to scale faster and get our applications out in much less time. We don't need to worry about the platform's ability to manage the workload, so we are pretty happy.
The InfoSight feature helps us with troubleshooting problems in our environment.
We can do more, faster, whether it's spinning up more virtual machines or handling large amounts of data.
The availability of the server has given us increased stability in our environment.
Provides High-Availability, security, and high performance
They provide very good support for our mission-critical processes.
If you can handle the IOPS, throughput is a natural byproduct. Usually, IOPS is where you are capped. HPE has done a great job in making sure that our IOP-intensive EMRs stay up and running. We have really good performance on them.
It runs. I don't have a problem with it. If it needs an update, I can do it in the middle of the day with nobody being the wiser. It is phenomenal in that respect. As a hospital, I get two hours every quarter to reboot things, so it is imperative that nothing goes down.
Tech support has been absolutely amazing. I think on the technical aspects as well, my staff is able to get great support from the NetApp technical support resources that we have. What I love about NetApp is they have a health care division. At times, it's such an amazing thing because if we have a healthcare-related issue, there's no one better than having prior CIOs from health care organizations that NetApp has hired, and that are part of the health care team, to help out with any of those initiatives and support problems. Support has been absolutely phenomenal.
The valuable features are the fabric pool. We are taking our cold data and pumping it straight into an estuary bucket. Also, efficiency. We're getting about two and a half times upwards of data efficiency through compaction, compression, deduplication, and it's size. When we refreshed from two or three racks of spinning discs down into 5U of rack space, it not only saved us a whole heap of costs in our data center environment but also it's nice to be green. The power savings alone equated to be about 50 tons of CO2 a year that we no longer emit. It's a big game changer.
The features that I found most valuable are SnapMirror and SnapVault; these provide DR and backup for data redundancy.
Its efficiency and scalability are the most valuable features.
The most valuable features for AFF are the speed, durability, back up, the time, the workloads that we are using currently are much faster than what they used to be. We're getting a lot of different things out of All Flash.
Previously we had migrated from Dell EMC and we had a lot of difficulties moving data around. Now, if we need to move it to any slower storage, we can move it with just a vault move within the cluster. Even moving data between clusters is extremely simple using SnapMirror. The mobility options for data in All Flash FAS have been awesome.
NetApp tech support is so good. Their tech support has always been so stable and the people are so good in case of any failure or any good feature that needs to be updated or features that supposedly can help with performance to improve some performance. NetApp support is one of the best that I deal with.
Scalability is excellent. If we need more space, it's a no downtime solution. It's harder to get the funding than it is to get the solution itself.
I think cloud integration would probably be the biggest part, because that's where everyone is going and the seamless integration between on-premise and cloud is an important part of any IT strategy today.
This solution is becoming dated.
We had a minor error when we were configuring this system, which initially detracted from its overall stability.
This solution should be easier to use.
I would like to see improvement in the product's scalability. As a partner, I had serious problems because of the competition from Dell EMC and Pure.
We would also like to see improvements to the ease of administration of 3PAR.
We do not use Memory-Driven Flash in the old 3PAR. Perhaps we will use it in the new 3PAR. That is part of the reason why we are upgrading.
We don't use the solution’s deduplication functionality because of bad code. I have friends that have used 3PAR dedupe, and have heard horror stories. We took a very much wait and see approach and never enabled the functionality. We have no desire to do so.
The total cost of ownership has increased a little.
I would like for them to develop the ability to detach the fabric pool. Once you've added it to an aggregate it's there for life and it would be nice to disconnect it if we ever had to.
I would like to see an improvement in the high availability of the NFS and CIFS sharing during upgrade and patching; this would help to avoid downtime.
The scaling needs improvement. NetApp is limited for scaling options.
The bad part about having scalability is the expense. It is currently extremely expensive, to be able to scale so fast on flash.
As for AFF itself, I don't have any suggestions of what I would be excited about seeing. I think that adding the support for the rest of APIs to AFF would be super handy. I think it's something that we've been waiting for for a while which would be fantastic.
I would like to see the ability to include more applications from applications to managed storage. If we can have more applications or more interface in more applications, that would be great.
I come tech support with difficulty because I installed NetApp for many years I know what to expect when I call. When I don't get their support tech that I'm expecting and I'm trying to get to the right one, it can get very frustrating for me personally, trying to all-flash push my way into the right person. NetApp has the right people, it's just a matter of getting to them.
Pricing and Cost Advice
This licensing fees for this solution are merged with all of our HP annual costs, which in total are a couple hundred thousand dollars.
We do not have any licensing fees.
I would like it to be cheaper.
The only licensing costs are around 3PAR in the form the OS itself. You pay at time of purchase. It is capacity-based, and you have annual maintenance that you pay.
Our licensing cost are $32,000 annually.
For the entire six node cluster and the two 7200 units plus the Brocade Fibre switches, we financed it through HPE Financial. It was $850,000. We leased that and paid it off in October of 2018.
I have to renew support in October for the existing solution. That will cost me roughly $50,000 this year, which in the grand scheme of things, $50,000 is not that much compared to paying $850,000. However, it will be the last year that I'll be able to get direct support from HPE. Therefore, product has to be replaced in 2020.
We went with 3PAR because we have HP-UX systems. Since we already knew HP-UX, they offered us a significantly cheaper solution than the one that we had for storage.
With other options, you need to buy a couple of different products to achieve the same outcome.
Our TCO has increased by 15 to 18 percent.
Using NetApp, our total cost of ownership decreased by 17%.
Our TCO decreased significantly because we were paying maintenance on nine different arrays throughout the country. We've condensed those down to three arrays, and our maintenance fees from the IBM product dropped by over a half million dollars a year, saving us $500,000 USD.
The total cost, the pricing of it, has gone up quite a bit.
Disk level encryption is already in the solution, but it is very costly. Its pricing should come down.
From an application standpoint, we have seen a lot of return investment on the speeds and responsiveness of the actual storage.
Our total cost of ownership (TCO) has decreased by 40 percent.
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Also Known As
|InServ, Storeserv, 3PAR Flash Storage, HP Enterprise Storage, 3PAR Flash Array, HP 3PAR Flash Storage||NetApp All Flash FAS, NetApp AFF, NetApp Flash FAS|
|Hewlett Packard Enterprise||NetApp|
HP 3PAR all-flash storage accelerates business agility by boosting application performance with over 900,000 IOPS at less than 0.7 ms latency. And it does this while delivering all the enterprise-class, Tier-1 features and functionality you expect from the storage platform that powers three of the world’s four largest managed service providers.
NetApp AFF8000 All Flash FAS systems combine all-flash performance with unified data management from flash to disk to cloud. Leverage the Data Fabric to move data securely across your choice of clouds—enabled by Cloud ONTAP™ and NetApp Private Storage for Cloud. Plus, you get the industry’s most efficient and comprehensive integrated data protection suite, on premises or in the cloud.
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