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We get a lot of compression and efficiency out of the dedupe, you can put a lot of stuff in a little space
Find out what your peers are saying about HPE 3PAR Flash Storage vs. NetApp AFF (All Flash FAS) and other solutions. Updated: January 2019.
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Scalability, because our customer is fast growing and our solution should be able to start very small and grow very quickly.
The chunklet technology is the main benefit out of 3PAR. The way it subdivides. It is using more logic to subdivide the drives into smaller pieces.
With our 3PARs, we have never lost data.
With the new flash arrays, 3PAR has improved our performance.
The new StoreServ Management Console (SSMC) tool is more user-friendly.
HPE can login, fix things, alert us to things, and upgrade. We are there and aware, but we do not do the work. So, that is good.
3PAR is easy to keep running and does not require too much effort. It has been very reliable, which is key.
The scalability is good because it is easy to add in new disks. We just add them on the fly, and they are available for use.
Its efficiency and scalability are the most valuable features.
The most valuable features for AFF are the speed, durability, back up, the time, the workloads that we are using currently are much faster than what they used to be. We're getting a lot of different things out of All Flash.
The valuable features are the fabric pool. We are taking our cold data and pumping it straight into an estuary bucket. Also, efficiency. We're getting about two and a half times upwards of data efficiency through compaction, compression, deduplication, and it's size. When we refreshed from two or three racks of spinning discs down into 5U of rack space, it not only saved us a whole heap of costs in our data center environment but also it's nice to be green. The power savings alone equated to be about 50 tons of CO2 a year that we no longer emit. It's a big game changer.
Previously we had migrated from Dell EMC and we had a lot of difficulties moving data around. Now, if we need to move it to any slower storage, we can move it with just a vault move within the cluster. Even moving data between clusters is extremely simple using SnapMirror. The mobility options for data in All Flash FAS have been awesome.
Tech support has been absolutely amazing. I think on the technical aspects as well, my staff is able to get great support from the NetApp technical support resources that we have. What I love about NetApp is they have a health care division. At times, it's such an amazing thing because if we have a healthcare-related issue, there's no one better than having prior CIOs from health care organizations that NetApp has hired, and that are part of the health care team, to help out with any of those initiatives and support problems. Support has been absolutely phenomenal.
NetApp tech support is so good. Their tech support has always been so stable and the people are so good in case of any failure or any good feature that needs to be updated or features that supposedly can help with performance to improve some performance. NetApp support is one of the best that I deal with.
Scalability is excellent. If we need more space, it's a no downtime solution. It's harder to get the funding than it is to get the solution itself.
This solution makes everything a lot faster. The time to move data around, boot and migrate VMs is much faster.
Security is a mandatory feature because our customer needs to protect delicate information.
I would like to see a faster Ethernet connection. Right now, it is 10G. If they could do multiple hundred gigs to speed up the transfer from the array to the servers, that would be good. We are trying to get away from Fibre Channel.
We need additional enhancements to InfoSight, especially from a VM standpoint. Today, we can see in the Azure VM performance stats in 3PAR, but it is so huge, we can't just drill down on each and every VM and look at its performance.
We are seeing that there are some enhancements which are required in the SSMC console. There are some features that we do not see in the dashboard.
There are some weird things that we can't figure out.
I would like to see the ability to be able to migrate to newer versions of the 3PAR without having to take any of our data offline and be able to upgrade on the fly.
We would like to see better support for iSCSI.
A lot of tasks, you have to manually set up. They need to already have them set up and working. Then, you can just go in and tweak them if you need to.
The scaling needs improvement. NetApp is limited for scaling options.
The bad part about having scalability is the expense. It is currently extremely expensive, to be able to scale so fast on flash.
I would like for them to develop the ability to detach the fabric pool. Once you've added it to an aggregate it's there for life and it would be nice to disconnect it if we ever had to.
As for AFF itself, I don't have any suggestions of what I would be excited about seeing. I think that adding the support for the rest of APIs to AFF would be super handy. I think it's something that we've been waiting for for a while which would be fantastic.
The total cost of ownership has increased a little.
I would like to see the ability to include more applications from applications to managed storage. If we can have more applications or more interface in more applications, that would be great.
I come tech support with difficulty because I installed NetApp for many years I know what to expect when I call. When I don't get their support tech that I'm expecting and I'm trying to get to the right one, it can get very frustrating for me personally, trying to all-flash push my way into the right person. NetApp has the right people, it's just a matter of getting to them.
I need faster Fibre Channel over Ethernet. They top out at 10GBs today and I would like that to go to 40 or 100.
Pricing and Cost Advice
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Since the prices of the flash storage has gone down tremendously, I would definitely recommend going for the all-flash storage array or 3PAR. It is a big expensive even now, but it will be the future of all industries.
You can't get software maintenance from a third party. You have to do it from HPE, which is a letdown.
3PAR was quite a bit less money than EMC, and that was one of the deciding factors.
We had to go back and purchase iLO licenses and brocade switches for the flex fabric to have a complete solution.
Cost-wise, it is a little bit on the higher side, but it is an awesome product.
We are going to buy eight nodes this year and eight nodes next year. Eventually, we are not going to want to buy large storage devices and probably utilize just storage, but in a different manner going forward.
It is a little more money, but it is worth it because it does it better.
With other options, you need to buy a couple of different products to achieve the same outcome.
Our TCO has increased by 15 to 18 percent.
Using NetApp, our total cost of ownership decreased by 17%.
Our TCO decreased significantly because we were paying maintenance on nine different arrays throughout the country. We've condensed those down to three arrays, and our maintenance fees from the IBM product dropped by over a half million dollars a year, saving us $500,000 USD.
The total cost, the pricing of it, has gone up quite a bit.
Disk level encryption is already in the solution, but it is very costly. Its pricing should come down.
From an application standpoint, we have seen a lot of return investment on the speeds and responsiveness of the actual storage.
Our total cost of ownership (TCO) has decreased by 40 percent.
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Also Known As
|InServ, Storeserv, 3PAR Flash Storage, HP Enterprise Storage, 3PAR Flash Array, HP 3PAR Flash Storage||NetApp All Flash FAS, NetApp AFF, NetApp Flash FAS|
|Hewlett Packard Enterprise||NetApp|
HP 3PAR all-flash storage accelerates business agility by boosting application performance with over 900,000 IOPS at less than 0.7 ms latency. And it does this while delivering all the enterprise-class, Tier-1 features and functionality you expect from the storage platform that powers three of the world’s four largest managed service providers.
NetApp AFF8000 All Flash FAS systems combine all-flash performance with unified data management from flash to disk to cloud. Leverage the Data Fabric to move data securely across your choice of clouds—enabled by Cloud ONTAP™ and NetApp Private Storage for Cloud. Plus, you get the industry’s most efficient and comprehensive integrated data protection suite, on premises or in the cloud.
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