Most Helpful Review
Researched Nutanix but chose VMware vSAN: As a hyperconverged solution, it simplifies what equipment we have to buy
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There is unified storage, which provides flexibility. It is set up perfectly for performance and provisioning. We are able to monitor everything using a separate application. It provides error and critical warnings that allow us to take immediate action through ONTAP. We are able to manage everything, log a case, and follow up with the support team, who can fix it. That is how it is unified.
The feature which I like the most is that it has the capabilities that the traditional storage system offers. It provides all the functionality. The deduplication and compression work exactly like ONTAP's traditional storage. So people who have experience with that find it very easy to manage.
The most valuable features are tiering to S3 and being able to turn it on and off, based on a schedule.
If you have a larger amount of data than normal in cloud, it is easy to provision and maintain. Waiting for the delivery of the controller, the configuration of enclosures, etc., all this stuff is eliminated compared to using on-premise.
Its features help us to have a backup of our volumes using the native technology of NetApp ONTAP. That way, we don't have to invest in other solutions for our backup requirement. Also, it helps us to replicate the data to another geographic location so that helps us to save on the costs of backup products.
They have very good support team who is very helpful. They will help you with every aspect of getting the deployment done.
One of the most valuable features is its similarity to the physical app, which makes it familiar. It's almost identical to a real NetApp, which means you can run all of the associated NetApp processes and services with it. Otherwise, we would definitely have to deploy some hardware on a site somewhere, which could be a challenge in terms of CapEx.
This solution provides a unified storage, no matter what kind of data you have.
One of the most valuable features is that it can be applied at any scale.
Nutanix has several unique capabilities to ensure linear scalability.
We like that the size of the box is 1U or 2U only, and all the servers are fit into that box. The ease of operation is there. All the servers and the SAN storage are inside the box.
Everything is core centralized on the UI.
The solution offers impressive performance.
Karbon is a must-have as it drastically simplifies the deployment of Kubernetes.
The fact that there is only one interface to deploy a complete solution for maximum storage is fantastic.
Best features are around data locality, compression, and deduplication.
We can also create test cases. We can even throttle down performance or release more performance. So, we can run more precise test scenarios.
When we do to do more scaled load testing, we can run more dense workloads and still have the same results across all specific nodes
It is more stable now than it was before. It's not like it was in the first year. Now it is stable, and we trust it more.
VMware vSAN has greatly reduced refresh spending.
The newer versions of this solution are much more stable and easier to manage.
As a function of our core business, it's a sought after tool that helps us provide analytical support across a wide spectrum of client needs. It's allowed us to test out in our connected restaurant - "TheWorks" - a fully-functional restaurant experience center that allows our clients to discover the value of our connected solutions firsthand. We deploy vSAN in this customer-like environment within a hyperconvergent infrastruction (HCI) to give our clients a better understanding and help optimize data and the end-users' experience.
The most valuable feature is the ability to continue our business needs and have higher visibility. It has definitely increased our business productivity levels.
To me, VMware is a leader of the visualizations. I think everyone just follow VMware.
We are getting a warning alert about not being able to connect to Cloud Manager when we log into it. The support has provided links, but this particular issue is not fixed yet.
When it comes to a critical or a read-write-intensive application, it doesn't provide the performance that some applications require, especially for SAP. The SAP HANA database has a write-latency of less than 2 milliseconds and the CVO solution does not fit there. It could be used for other databases, where the requirements are not so demanding, especially when it comes to write-latency.
I would like to see more aggressive management of the aggregate space. On the Cloud Volumes ONTAP that we use for offsite backup copies, most of the data sits in S3. There are also the EBS volumes on the Cloud Volumes ONTAP itself. Sometimes what happens is that the aggregate size just stays the same. If it allocates 8 terabytes initially, it just stays at 8 terabytes for a long time, even though we're only using 20 percent of that 8 terabytes. NetApp could undersize that more aggressively.
I would like NetApp to come up with an easier setup for the solution.
The automated deployment was a bit complex using the public APIs. When we had to deploy Cloud Volumes ONTAP on a regular basis using automation, It could be a bit of a challenge.
We want to be able to add more than six disks in aggregate, but there is a limit of the number of disks in aggregate. In GCP, they provide less by limiting the sixth disk in aggregate. In Azure, the same solution provides 12 disks in an aggregate versus GCP where it is just half that amount. They should bump up the disk in aggregate requirement so we don't have to migrate the aggregate from one to another when the capacities are full.
There is room for improvement with the capacity. There's a very hard limit to how many disks you can have and how much space you can have. That is something they should work to fix, because it's limiting. Right now, the limit is about 360 terabytes or 36 disks.
The solution is very expensive. Due to its design, It's not cost-efficient versus doing a physical environment of similar size.
Some clients find the solution's cost to be too high.
There is a need is to be able to consume Nutanix storage from outside the cluster for other, non-Nutanix workloads.
Pricing and varieties of options could be better.
Could have better visibility with the main OEM backup integrators.
The solution doesn't support older systems, which can be a problem for some organizations who wish to implement it. It became a problem for us due to the fact that some of our systems are older.
In the licensing, it needs to be clear about features because it is not clear whether Flow is integrated or not.
They have offered some new features that I have not deployed so I assume that these issues might have been addressed already, but, at my time there was a networking problem.
We could always use a performance upgrade, or simplified management.
When we talk about improvements for vSAN, there is some way to go from a at least stability perspective. Adding all these new features is nice, but we are now at the level that most of the features you need in production are there.
Upgradability could be a bit easier sometimes. We are now where vSAN can be updated without ESXi, but there is still enough dependency. So that would be good if that actually would uncoupled even more.
Disaster recovery needs to be improved, when there is a crisis, there is a problem with what is the quickest way to get out of it.
This solution is not great for large file shares/object/rich media repository.
This solution would benefit from better collaboration with Cisco for driver updates.
I would like to see the availability of more template based VMware systems. Combined with the ability to check and measure multiple and converging data segments. Another issue I've seen is that the tool seems to be slow when first starting up.
I would love for this product to be cheaper and easier to configure.
It is an expensive solution.
Pricing and Cost Advice
If a customer is only using, say, less than 10 terabytes, I don't think CVO would be a good option. A customer using at least 100 or 200 terabytes should get a reasonable price from NetApp.
Once we deploy the pay as you go model, we cannot convert this product as a BYOL model. This is a concern that we have.
They have a very good price which keeps our customers happy.
They give us a good price for CVO licenses. It is one of the reasons that we went with the product.
For NetApp it's about $20,000 for a single node and $30,000 for the HA.
Our licensing costs are folded into the hardware purchases and I have never differentiated between the two.
Cost is a big factor, because a lot of companies can't afford enterprise grade equipment all the time. They skimp where they can. I would recommend that they improve the cost.
Cloud is cloud. It's still expensive. Any good solution comes with a price tag. That's where we are looking to see how well we can manage our data in the cloud by trying to optimize the costs.
Pricing varies greatly between license and editions.
They should lower the price. If they did they would fall into a more competitive market because the price does scare a lot of potential customers away when they get the quote.
There are a lot of features included with Nutanix that cost a lot with other companies.
ROI from an administrative perspective is clearly much better because I only have to deal with one user interface.
I'd love for this product to be cheaper.
The only problem I have with VMware is the price. It is a good product, but it is expensive.
With vSAN, we didn't find the market that competitive.
The vSAN is somewhat expensive to license.
The vSAN licensing is not an inexpensive product. It does cost more than hypervisor.
We did consider other hyperconverged solutions. It usually came down to price. vSan was the most cost effective thing.
What made us go with this solution was price point. When you can utilize existing storage infrastructure, and not have to continually purchase new SAN products out there that are going up in price as time goes by, then it's a wonderful thing.
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The leading enterprise-grade storage management solution, delivers secure, proven storage management services and supports up to a capacity of 368TB. Software service supports various use cases, such as: File shares and block-level storage serving NAS (NFS, SMB / CIFS) and SAN (iSCSI) Disaster Recovery, Backup, and Archive DevOps Databases (SQL, Oracle, NoSQL) Cloud Volumes ONTAP is offered in a standard single-node configuration or in a High Availability (HA) configuration.
Nutanix delivers invisible infrastructure for next-generation enterprise computing, elevating IT to focus on the applications and services that power their business. Nutanix’s software-driven Xtreme Computing Platform natively converges compute, virtualization and storage into a single solution to drive simplicity in the datacenter. Using Nutanix, customers benefit from predictable performance, linear scalability and cloud-like infrastructure consumption.
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