HPE SimpliVity vs. Nutanix

HPE SimpliVity is ranked 3rd in Hyper-Converged (HCI) with 53 reviews vs Nutanix which is ranked 1st in Hyper-Converged (HCI) with 40 reviews. The top reviewer of HPE SimpliVity writes "Having a private cloud for my organization is valuable". The top reviewer of Nutanix writes "What you might not know about Nutanix that makes it so unique". HPE SimpliVity is most compared with Nutanix, VMware vSAN and VxRail. Nutanix is most compared with VMware vSAN, HPE SimpliVity and VxRail. See our HPE SimpliVity vs. Nutanix report.
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Pros
Dedupe, compression, and replication of primary and secondary data, locally and remotely.It has a proven track record of stability.Valuable features include ease of use, disaster recovery, and reliability.Offsite backup, replication, and duplication of data are important for our plant environment since we are hard on our equipment.Its deduplication and backup functions are reliable.The ease of setting up our DR site with SimpliVity. It was very simple. I did not have to set up a separate storage, server, and networking environments.SimpliVity has provided our organization with a cost effective DR/data protection solution.The backup and recovery is very fast, effective, and easy to use.

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The level of statistical performance data that it can confirm in real-time is extremely useful. I can see what my VM’s hosts and guests are doing from a single pane of glass and identify issues before they would otherwise become apparent.SRM capabilities for replication have been proven reliable and very useful for our organization.It has seamless expandability.Their Google operating system is more mature, so their results are much better.Prism Central allows managing the cluster from a single pane of glass, and it allows a deeper dive into the solution.They have one of the best technical supports in my experience.Simplified management: It provides us more time to work on other tasks.Nutanix has several unique capabilities to ensure linear scalability.

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Cons
Needs decoupling of distributed data fabric to run in a hyperscale deployment outside the hypervisor on dedicated nodes.We should have something called micro segmentation inside the SimpliVity box, which can be easily implemented.Bandwidth throttling during offsite backups would be better than the off-peak time setting for a 24/7 shop.High availability for large production environments needs to be offered.I would love it if the solution would auto data balance within the cluster. It is possible, and eventually, it will be likely that certain nodes within the same cluster will hold more data than the other nodes.SimpliVity needs to improve the support for native backups, like SQL and Exchange.File level restores work well, but indexing will help make the process faster.SimpliVity needs to add support for Hyper-V and KVM.

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Regarding third-party backup solutions, the only agentless option is Commvault, which is expensive, complex, and requires intensive vendor training.We would like to see it support other systems outside of the compute stack from which it was built.They should support more VM, which is not currently supported.I would like better integration of XenServer into the AOS and Prism Central.Make it easier to manage.Reduce its power consumption.There is a need is to be able to consume Nutanix storage from outside the cluster for other, non-Nutanix workloads.Native File-Services are under heavy development and Container Services just came out.

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Upfront costs seems high at first look, but after analyzing all the benefits of SimpliVity, we have come out ahead.It has helped to reduce our VMware licensing costs due to host consolidation.HPE has decided to sell the solution in all-flash configurations, which may not be as cost effective for smaller mid-market enterprises.​Investing less time in configuration and management means that you will have more time to focus on what is really important: Your company's innovation and rapid commercialization.​For most use cases, look to see if you can use all-flash as the price point, as it has come down significantly.It seemed like it was expensive at first. Now that I have had it installed for a period of time, I think I got a great deal.​Cost is a factor. It is quite expensive.Other vendors fall short on price compared to HPE on this product.

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I don't feel that I am receiving the performance which I am paying for.Work close with your InfraTeam and discuss with Nutanix the best way to achieve sizing and price that are right for you.Licensing depends on the features needed.Extra features should not be so expensive. We would love to be able to use or even just try some of the extra features without having to buy them. Buying those features is just as expensive as buying vSphere licenses, so the cost savings is nullified.Setup cost is minor, pricing is quite a bit (we have a 7-node-cluster for about 450K EUR with 2 vGPU-nodes for Citrix) but that includes hardware, software, and support.While cost may seem higher than your traditional 3-tier architecture, you need to look at the bigger picture. You're not just buying hardware here. You're buying a complete environment.I know Nutanix and VxRail have similar prices and licenses. Nutanix is a go-ahead if AHV is used as hypervisor because it is already embedded in the price.The basic license that comes with the box allows basic virtualization features but advanced automation features would require an upgrade of licenses.

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Rhea Rapps
reviewer543450Real User

in my position as Head of It I have looked and compared both solutions about 3-4 years ago for the first time, and we clearly went for Simplivity. For these reasons: Data efficiency (Dedupliation and compression), and resiliency. The file System of Nutanix wasn't able to handle a 2-drive failure, so this was a clear showstopper for us. Simplivity can handle even 3! And Nutanix was also lacking a real deduplication, like Simplivity has
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My experience with Simplivity has been great, so positive that we moved all of our server infrastructure into it. The accelerator card with deduplication reduces IOs, and this simple thing pays off in many aspects: improved general performance (because of less IOs), faster restores and backups (because of dedup) - so fast that we are NOT using our traditional backup solution (market leader) for ANY restore anymore, because it is so slow in comparison! Integration in Vmware virtual center, so there is basically nothing to learn to manage Simplivity. Deduplication allowed us to squeeze the content of our SAN at that time into a 'smaller' Storage in terms of TB, and to grow 3 years on it without reaching its limits.
We scaled up and added new nodes last year, and are going to get new ones now, as our company has grown and the server infrastructure accordingly.

I had a look a Nutanix again last summer, and will do again next month. My impression: great vision, especially because of the own hypervisor. This is interesting to me because it could potentially save licences costs in the long run by removing Vmware. And I said in the long run: it was still a 'concept' last year at Nutanix. Some important features were on the roadmap, but not yet there. Then it has to be carefully evaluated, if this hypervisor really can be a substitute for Vmware, market leader since more than a decade. I guess it will need a few years. It is a great vision, but still lacks execution.

The greatest downside I saw was the weakness of the deduplication in Nutanix. Dedup is modest in terms of ratio which may be reached (the vendor did not dare to name anything better than 2:1 to me, which is a very modest result in comparison to Simplivity. I was also explained, that dedup or compressions are features which needs to be enabled at the datastore level, and which could eventually limit performance. In other words: you have a set of features/policies which you may enable there, but you should not enable them all on each datastore. This sounds limiting to me, when I think that it’s exactly having dedup and compression in place at all time anywhere on simplivity which reduces IOs and makes the solution great and fast in moving, copying, restoring data.

I would really look at the use case: if you are starting from scratch, and do not care about which hypervisor you want to use, or do not need the benefits of vmware, then Nutanix might be interesting. In that case I would compare the total costs of hardware and software including the hypervisor licenses and also considering the costs of backup/restore given the functionality Nutanix offers vs Simplivity.
If you are an existing Vmware shop, which is probably true for most companies these days, and/or want to consolidate your datacentre, to me the choice is clear: Simplivity. I still did not find any reason to prefer Nutanix and am really surprised, how widespread Nutanix is while lacking such key features.

Regards

Matteo

15 February 18
SeniorSy7ca6Real User

My standard answer to this type of question is, wait for it... "It Depends". It's always best to understand your needs for a storage system and evaluate vendors and their solutions to find the one that best fits your needs and requirements. Take the time to define your requirements and your evaluation phase should be fairly simple. Once you settle on a couple of vendors/solutions that most closely meet your needs then do an in-depth evaluation. This will help ensure you get the best solution for you.

We have chosen VMware as the best fit for our needs. The Enterprise version of the vSphere suite includes VSAN and VSAN is tightly integrated into the Hypervisior code with little overhead and no additional controller VM's taking up host resources. With the ability to use commodity hardware vSphere is the best fit for us. There are also vSphere/Hardware full solutions like VX Rail available.

I do have a Nutanix cluster and it performs very well and is really easy to use and manage. I have found that it is very expensive to add additional hardware/resources. If you want to add memory, you have to buy a Nutanix license for the additional memory. Same with disks, want to add more, buy more licenses. The last major software update required that each of the controller machines memory be upped to 28GB (in my environment) each. For a 3 node cluster that is 84GB of memory overhead.

14 February 18
Carlos EtchartReal User

In my opinion, the key differences in favor of HPE Simplivity are:
- It includes advanced data services built-in in the architecture such as always‑on deduplication and compression, native backup and DR and high data efficiency (the data efficiency is global at Federation level, the data is compressed and deduplicated once and never rehydrated which saves bandwidth when doing remote backups and restores, which are very fast)
HPE Simplivity guarantees a minimum of 10:1 efficiency (deduplication + compression) and the mean of customer’s efficiency is 40:1 (HPE claim).
Also, the minimum number of nodes to get enterprise resilience is 2 for HPE Simplivity (tolerates any 3 simultaneous drive failures) and 5 for Nutanix (to implement RF3 data protection)
The advantage for Nutanix:
- It gives the choice of several hypervisors and brings its own hypervisor (Acropolis) for customers that can take advantage of its features.

My 2 cents….

14 February 18
Ronald GrahamUser

The two biggest differences are the fact that, at this point, you can only run SimpliVity with VMware and the compression and deduplication on the Simplivity is done via hardware and on the Nutanix that is done via software.

What does all this mean?
Well, let’s start with the first difference.
With Simplivity you can only run VMware as your hypervisor. If you already run VMware don’t have to budget for this it is not a big deal unless price is a factor in your datacenter refresh. The reason for this is because with Nutanix you can use their hypervisor built by them that offers almost all of the same features and more added all the time. So if you need to bring the price down significantly and you are willing to work with a different hypervisor then I would suggest looking into Nutanix over Simplivity.

The second difference and the most impressive is that Simplivity uses a hardware dedup and compression piece whereas Nutanix does this via software.

Why is this important, well by doing this in hardware you are not taking up any of the CPU and RAM of the system itself leaving move for your VMs. Also when you have a dedicated hardware component handling all the compression and dedup you are able to be more efficient and get better numbers when it comes to data savings as well as a decrease in IO writing to disk. The drawback to this is you have a single point of failure when it comes to that hardware piece as with Nutnaix since they are doing that with software you don’t have to worry about it ever going down as long as you have a node running.

When it is all said and done if cost is a huge factor and you can do without VMware, I would go with Nutanix. If you don’t want to learn a new hypervisor and you can spend the extra money on VMware I would go with Simplivity.

14 February 18
Shailesh SurroopReal User

Both Nutanix and Simplivity are great solutions for the modern IT infrastructure.

Advantages of Nutanix over Simplivity are; choice of hardware to run Nutanix, choice of hypervisor (supports Hyper-V, Xenserver, AHV and VMware), Prism management console is pure pleasure to any IT operations team, Nutanix support is top draw, Nutanix Metro provides unparalleled protection and allows box to box replication.

As with Simplivity, the installation is extremely complex and supports only VMware which automatically adds up to the TCO of the solution. This gets very pricey in the long run.

We run Nutanix on CISCO UCS since September 2017 and everyone is so pleased with it.

15 February 18
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HPE SimpliVity provides the most complete hyperconverged solution, powering the world’s most efficient and resilient data centers and delivering up to 49% cost savings verses public cloud alternatives. A market and customer satisfaction leader, HPE SimpliVity dramatically simplifies IT by combining all infrastructure and advanced data services—including guaranteed data efficiency, built-in data protection, and VM-centric mobility—onto the customer’s choice of server. With HPE SimpliVity, expand your possibilities, not your data center.

Nutanix delivers invisible infrastructure for next-generation enterprise computing, elevating IT to focus on the applications and services that power their business. Nutanix’s software-driven Xtreme Computing Platform natively converges compute, virtualization and storage into a single solution to drive simplicity in the datacenter. Using Nutanix, customers benefit from predictable performance, linear scalability and cloud-like infrastructure consumption.

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