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"The features that I found most valuable are SnapMirror and SnapVault; these provide DR and backup for data redundancy."
"The valuable features are the fabric pool. We are taking our cold data and pumping it straight into an estuary bucket. Also, efficiency. We're getting about two and a half times upwards of data efficiency through compaction, compression, deduplication, and it's size. When we refreshed from two or three racks of spinning discs down into 5U of rack space, it not only saved us a whole heap of costs in our data center environment but also it's nice to be green. The power savings alone equated to be about 50 tons of CO2 a year that we no longer emit. It's a big game changer."
"Tech support has been absolutely amazing. I think on the technical aspects as well, my staff is able to get great support from the NetApp technical support resources that we have. What I love about NetApp is they have a health care division. At times, it's such an amazing thing because if we have a healthcare-related issue, there's no one better than having prior CIOs from health care organizations that NetApp has hired, and that are part of the health care team, to help out with any of those initiatives and support problems. Support has been absolutely phenomenal."
"This solution has reduced our data center costs because when we went from the 8000 and 3200 series that took us from 20 racks of storage down to two."
"The solution’s thin provisioning has allowed us to add new applications without having to purchase additional storage. We use thin provisioning for everything. We use the deduplication compression functionality for all of our NetApps. If we weren't using thin provisioning, we'd probably have two to times more storage on our floor right now than we do today."
"The most valuable features of this solution are the deduplication and the ability to move data to different clouds."
"The most valuable features of this solution are snapshotting and cloning."
"The overall latency in our environment is very low because it's All Flash and we've got 10 Giga dedicated to the storage network"
"This solution has given us improved application uptime and performance."
"The solution has improved our throughput by helping us keep up with the demand and acquisitions that we have been going through."
"The solution’s deduplication functionality works great. We are getting about a 16:1 dedupe ratio on our VM workloads."
"It has allowed us to set up a fully functioning disaster recovery site with replication, which we have been able to configure between our 3PAR systems."
"If it runs, and you don't know about it, that is the best thing that you can have in IT infrastructure. This is what 3PAR does for us."
"The all-flash positions our organization for growth. If somebody comes to us who needs an application with performance, we have that already formulated."
"The remote copy group failover is very useful and has helped us."
"It allows us to cohost as needed. We are able to put more systems on one data storage system and it is still able to deliver the availability and speed that we need it to deliver."
"The FlexClone feature is the solution's most valuable aspect."
"We are satisfied with the stability."
"Ability to cluster two storages together with HA availability."
"The solution offers very good reliable systems and storage for our clients."
"The price of this solution is good."
"I would like to see an improvement in the high availability of the NFS and CIFS sharing during upgrade and patching; this would help to avoid downtime."
"I would like for them to develop the ability to detach the fabric pool. Once you've added it to an aggregate it's there for life and it would be nice to disconnect it if we ever had to."
"The total cost of ownership has increased a little."
"We would like to have NVMe on FabricPool working because it broke our backups. We enabled FabricPool to do the tiering from our AFFs to our Webscale but it sort of broke our Cobalt backups."
"Something I've talked to NetApp about in the past is going more to a node-based architecture, like the hyper-converged solutions that we are doing nowadays. Because the days of having to buy massive quantities of storage all at one time, have changed to being able to grow in smaller increments from a budgetary standpoint. This change would be great for our business. This is what my leadership would like to see in a lot of things that they purchase now. I would like to see that architecture continue to evolve in that clustered environment."
"It would be very useful if we could do the NFS to CIFS file transfer, but it is not supported at this time."
"The cost of this solution should be reduced."
"It has not reduced our data center costs. NetApp charges a pretty penny for their stuff."
"We would like to see dedupe and compression allowed on all drive types."
"I would like to have more details on alerting. It is not real granular right now. What It gives you is sort of basic, and we can't do a lot of tweaking on our own. We would like to be able to tweak some of the alerts for our team."
"The onsite techs have caused outages."
"The GUI was a little hard to figure out how to use."
"I want artificial intelligence. I don't want anybody from my team to touch it anymore. I want the AI to do everything."
"I would like to have single click upgrades because the process is cumbersome right now."
"We've started to see an issue with the older models that we have. We've had issues where facilities would have unscheduled power outages or scheduled power outages and the 3PARs weren't able to come up successfully. We actually had an incident recently where it wiped data that we didn't anticipate would be wiped."
"Upgrades could be improved. We would like to see more upgrades."
"The solution needs a simpler licensing theme around the DM series. The problem is if you only need one of the features, you still have to buy the whole thing. The licensing needs to be more granular or flexible so you have the option to only license FlexCone or Inline Compression features."
"It takes a very long time to enter the management console, as well as to restart the system, and these are things that should be improved."
"This is an expensive solution."
"The licensing model needs to be revisited. It needs to be simplified."
"Many people do not realize that Lenovo has a storage solution, so better marketing from the vendor is needed."
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"The pricing is good."
"It consolidates a lot of our storage into one or two chassis, which makes money savings in our data center."
"We have used the solution’s thin provisioning to add new applications without having to purchase additional storage. We use thin provisioning on all of our flash arrays at this point. It gives us the choice to be able to overprovision and take advantage of compression, compaction, and thin provisioning all at the same time. We can get more out of the purchases that we make."
"I would like it to be a lot less expensive, but it's been a very good solution for us."
"The price of the upgrading of the solution is high. I could buy a whole unit of All Flash FAS 300 with a shelf for around $285,000. Yet if I want to add one additional shelf, it'll cost me $275,000. So they want you to upgrade by replacing it. It's cheaper to buy a whole new unit than to just scale out. The upside is they last. AFF lasts us three or four years. So that's a good investment."
"It definitely reduces costs because it simply takes less power to run these systems. While the SSDs don't take power, they are in general very big right now. So, the running cost has decreased for a lot of our customers."
"We benefited from implementing all-flash by reducing our data center footprint. We took it from 30 racks to just over five. This is one of the biggest savings for us."
"One of the reasons we like this solution is that all of the features are included with the one license."
"It makes for less administrative overhead."
"We have seen ROI. While the costs were quite high at the time of purchase for our environment, the ease of use and the fact that it hasn't failed all the time, working fine, that makes it worth buying."
"We went with 3PAR because we have HP-UX systems. Since we already knew HP-UX, they offered us a significantly cheaper solution than the one that we had for storage."
"We have seen ROI. We are able to see more patients now, bringing more money into the practice."
"For the entire six node cluster and the two 7200 units plus the Brocade Fibre switches, we financed it through HPE Financial. It was $850,000. We leased that and paid it off in October of 2018."
"I have to renew support in October for the existing solution. That will cost me roughly $50,000 this year, which in the grand scheme of things, $50,000 is not that much compared to paying $850,000. However, it will be the last year that I'll be able to get direct support from HPE. Therefore, product has to be replaced in 2020."
"Our licensing cost are $32,000 annually."
"I would like it to be cheaper."
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|NetApp All Flash FAS, NetApp AFF, NetApp Flash FAS||HPE 3PAR Flash Storage, InServ, Storeserv, 3PAR Flash Storage, HP Enterprise Storage, 3PAR Flash Array, HP 3PAR Flash Storage||ThinkSystem DM Series|
|NetApp||Hewlett Packard Enterprise||Lenovo|
NetApp AFF8000 All Flash FAS systems combine all-flash performance with unified data management from flash to disk to cloud. Leverage the Data Fabric to move data securely across your choice of clouds—enabled by Cloud ONTAP™ and NetApp Private Storage for Cloud. Plus, you get the industry’s most efficient and comprehensive integrated data protection suite, on premises or in the cloud.
HP 3PAR all-flash storage accelerates business agility by boosting application performance with over 900,000 IOPS at less than 0.7 ms latency. And it does this while delivering all the enterprise-class, Tier-1 features and functionality you expect from the storage platform that powers three of the world’s four largest managed service providers.
To meet enterprise storage requirements, ThinkSystem All-Flash DM Series systems provide high performance, superior flexibility, and best-in-class data management. DM Series runs on ONTAP data management software, which gives customers unified storage across block-and-file workloads. It accelerates your business while improving the efficiency, flexibility, and reliability of your IT operations.
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HPE 3PAR StoreServ is ranked 4th in All-Flash Storage Arrays with 42 reviews while Lenovo ThinkSystem DM Series is ranked 17th in All-Flash Storage Arrays with 5 reviews. HPE 3PAR StoreServ is rated 8.6, while Lenovo ThinkSystem DM Series is rated 7.4. The top reviewer of HPE 3PAR StoreServ writes "The product's technical support is outstanding as I can reach someone right away". On the other hand, the top reviewer of Lenovo ThinkSystem DM Series writes "Reliable, but has a difficult licensing process and needs more storage". HPE 3PAR StoreServ is most compared with Dell EMC Unity XT, HPE Nimble Storage, HPE Primera, IBM FlashSystem and Pure Storage FlashArray, whereas Lenovo ThinkSystem DM Series is most compared with Dell EMC Unity XT, Lenovo ThinkSystem DE Series, IBM FlashSystem and HPE Nimble Storage. See our HPE 3PAR StoreServ vs. Lenovo ThinkSystem DM Series report.
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