Director - Market Leader at a tech services company with 10,001+ employees
Real User
If you know Excel you can easily run Kryon, but the integration features need work
Pros and Cons
  • "The number of commands it gives us to edit and modify is really good. It also captures screen activities and plays them back."
  • "There are limitations on integrations with other platforms like ServiceNow. There are some issues integrating. It's not a really an open system. The product, its design, etc., is really good, but they have to look at the openness, how to integrate with other products which are available in the market, as well as with our own solutions. You can do integration but it is not so easy."

What is our primary use case?

We use Kryon in a number of use cases. We have done a lot of work in the insurance industry, especially client-onboarding. We are also working on AML, anti-money laundering. Another use case is data extraction from invoices, using the Kryon platform.

How has it helped my organization?

To give you an example, we worked on a client-onboarding scenario. Client-onboarding, when run manually, was typically taking about 45 minutes for just one customer, because the process is so lengthy and because of the amount of information required. In addition, it was updating four systems and there was work done to match the systems, which required a migration piece. Now, with automation, we capture it once, in one system, and then onboard this information to two or three other systems. It now takes a maximum of about eight minutes, compared to the 45 minutes of work when it was done manually.

It has definitely also helped our workforce embrace digital transformation. We have implemented this with onboarding processes, email processes, and the like. It has now spread to multiple LOBs and they're talking to us, including HR, finance, and more.

The bots result in a lot of effort saved and that means we don't need to hire people to do certain jobs. It's saving money on FTEs. I estimate that when we run a business use case, the typical savings are four to five FTEs per month. In terms of business analysts' time, out of eight hours, typically four hours are saved. Operational efficiency has increased more than 50 to 60 percent. Finally, it saves us time when launching new automation processes, by about 30 percent.

What is most valuable?

The best feature is its reporting. The core features of Kryon are the best. 

In addition, the number of commands it gives us to edit and modify is really good. 

It also captures screen activities and plays them back. I'm a technical guy, so it's very easy for me to do it. If I imagine giving this to a business guy, it is really amazing, because he knows what action he is going to perform.

What needs improvement?

With respect to web-based applications that we have, Kryon may not be able to do certain things in terms of technology and support.

Also, there are limitations on integrations with other platforms like ServiceNow. There are some issues integrating. It's not a really an open system. The product, its design, etc., is really good, but they have to look at the openness, how to integrate with other products which are available in the market, as well as with our own solutions. You can do integration but it is not so easy. You have to build certain things to integrate. It's not like an open API is available. It's there but it's not really open compared to competitors.

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For how long have I used the solution?

We've been using Kryon for close to three years now.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

The only challenge today is that when we migrate to a new version, there is a lot of work. We need to roll it back. Once migrated, we cannot roll it back easily. There are a lot of things that need to change. We've asked Kryon to build a complete package so that migration can easily happen from one version to another version. 

For example, 5.1 to 5.4 was really a nightmare for us. It was more to do with the number of assets we had. When they changed to 5.4, with the new enhancements, some of the scripts were failing after we migrated, and we had a whole list of issues. We had to reconfigure certain elements. It was effort. It was not an easy migration.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

We are now doing close to 20 processes. It still works fine. There are no issues from the scalability point of view.

How are customer service and support?

Technical support is there in some of the regions. In APAC it is good. One or two years back, it was not there. They've improved since then. They are able to support us if that is required.

How was the initial setup?

The initial setup took some time because there are a number of components. There is a server, Studio, etc., so it takes some time to set up properly. But once it is set up, it's easy to work with. But the initial setup requires some time.

Setting up a server typically takes three to five days. We go through a process where we regulate things, we make sure we validate the software, and we that we have approval. 

Our implementation strategy was to first set up a pilot. After the pilot, we wanted to go full-blown. That's when we looked at infrastructure for development, testing, and production. We then started bringing a lot more LOBs in, to grow and develop.

What about the implementation team?

We used Kryon consultants, and some of our team members also got trained and certified so that we could take over that piece. Initially it was a joint effort and after that we took over.

Our experience with Kryon consulting was good. They follow certain guidelines, they don't allow any unwanted consultants to implement or do anything. They make sure consultants are certified in the product and that they have experience. That was good. That's how they start with all customers.

What was our ROI?

If we look at the number of FTEs saved, there is definitely ROI from those savings. In fact, we are collecting metrics on that now, to know how much value we've had. Over the three years we have had close to $300,000.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

Our licensing cost is close to $80,000 US per year and that includes the server, Studio, and both attended and unattended bots. There are no costs in addition to the standard licensing fees.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

We evaluated a few solutions but Kryon was the platform we chose. We evaluated UiPath and Kofax. We found Kryon to be a good platform so we engaged it. It is easy to use, no integrations were required, there are no plugins to download. Our platform includes mainframe and client-server.

At the time we were evaluating, UiPath was not really working out well. If we were to compare now it's a different scenario, but two years back it was a nightmare.

What other advice do I have?

My advice is to follow the right set of instructions and best practices, even before you implement automation. Look at what is available, at how you do it. If you don't follow those instructions, you may find it difficult, but once you know exactly how to use it and what to do, it works. Have training properly done and after that start looking at implementation.

It's really good for end-to-end RPA. The way we work is we do a discovery manually rather than using an automated discovery process. Once we identify a process and we run through a complete lifecycle of it. We then work on the design elements, how to run the exceptions, etc. We make sure that UAT is done, that it is tested well. We then make sure that the business users accept the process, how it's going to work. We then validate the bot, make sure we get a sign-off from them, and then we go to production. We do one week or two weeks off thorough checking on production to make sure there are no exceptions or issues. We then hand it over to the client to run it.

In terms of the ease of use of Kryon for business users with no technical background, that's a key area. What we say to them is, if you're not familiar with Kryon and you want to automate, there is a basic, fundamental, one-day workshop. It will give you at least an idea of how to record, what the options are, what you should look for - the key things to learn about some of the elements of the Kryon platform. Then they're good to go. I see that users are then happily recording things and playing them back. So Kryon provides ease of use where they are not really struggling. If somebody knows Excel, that person can easily run Kryon.

We have business users and we have some developers. It's a small team of five to eight people, including the business users. In terms of deployment and maintenance of Kryon, we currently have a very small number of processes. There is an agenda to grow big. We're looking at more than taking more 30 live so we are bringing in external consultants to help us do that job. We want to keep a lean team right now, because once we go live we will need to do more of the production support and maintenance of the bots. We will only do small-scale development in-house. If it gets to a complex level, we will get a team of consultants to help us. In terms of infrastructure, we have one guy dedicated to that right now.

I would rate Kryon at seven out of ten. There are the migration issues and they need to support web-based apps.

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Vice President International Business at conneqt
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Top 5
Approachable solution with flexible scaling
Pros and Cons
  • "Kryon RPA is very stable - we've not had many disruptions, and the product is updated regularly."
  • "Kryon could be easier to use, especially in comparison to UiPath."

What is our primary use case?

I primarily use Kryon RPA for attended and unattended bots and back-office automation. I've also used it for fulfillment cases in the retail domain, where it's been working quite well.

What needs improvement?

Kryon could be easier to use, especially in comparison to UiPath.

For how long have I used the solution?

I've been using Kryon RPA for five years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

Kryon RPA is very stable - we've not had many disruptions, and the product is updated regularly.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

The scalability's good, and it's flexible in terms of how you want to scale it up.

How are customer service and support?

We've received good support from Kryon.

How was the initial setup?

The initial setup is straightforward, without any issues.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

Kryon is slightly more expensive compared to UiPath.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

We evaluated Automation Anywhere and Blue Prism and found Kryon to be more approachable.

What other advice do I have?

I would recommend Kryon to those thinking of installing it and would give it a score of nine out of ten.

Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

On-premises
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RPA Specialist at Banco Pichincha
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Top 20
It's easy to create bots and schedule when they should run
Pros and Cons
  • "I like Kryon RPA's ability to use automated and manual processes with any bot."
  • "Kryon RPA's integration with other solutions could be more seamless."

What is our primary use case?

I use Kryon RPA to make bots for the telecommunication and banking industries. 

What is most valuable?

I like Kryon RPA's ability to use automated and manual processes with any bot.

What needs improvement?

Kryon RPA's integration with other solutions could  be more seamless. 

For how long have I used the solution?

I've been using Kryon RPA since 2019. I started at my previous company about four years ago, then I took another position at Banco Pichincha Ecuador. I'm a development architect working as an independent consultant at the bank. 

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

Kryon RPA is scalable. It's easy to create bots and schedule when they should run.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

Kryon RPA's interface isn't as developer-friendly as UiPath's. I'd also like to see more seamless integration with other solutions. For example, with UiPath, we can use a lot of APIs. I also like Orchestrator from UiPath. We can control all of the robots that we're developing in the machines in the bot runners. UiPath Apps is a new tool that I like.

Microsoft also has some amazing tools, like Power Automate Desktop, Power Apps, and Power Automate Online. These tools can integrate with bots on Power Automate Desktop.

What other advice do I have?

I Kryon RAP 10 out of 10. I recommend starting with easy processes. You should discuss the processes with the client, and go over things like cost, tools, time, and other things that are critical for the business.

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Director of Process Engineering at a healthcare company with 5,001-10,000 employees
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Process Discovery is helping us make sense of what people are doing, day-to-day
Pros and Cons
  • "The thing that we find the most value in is the Process Discovery component and the ability to really see what users are doing on a day-to-day basis. We're starting to make sense of the processes that they're doing and getting visibility into what they're doing. Overall, the Process Discovery is very good."
  • "The product requires some more time in development. It still has some bugs and some things to work out. They're constantly releasing. They need to continue working out the general issues of using the product at scale, first and foremost."

What is our primary use case?

We're looking to discover routine processes that our users do and ultimately automate those processes and deploy them to robots.

We've really been looking at just about any of processes. We've initially used it for processes that update invoices or update data on our system. We've used it for processes to send emails such as notification emails. We've used it to run scripts and to run data updates, and as a scheduling tool as well.

How has it helped my organization?

We've already automated about 40 hours' worth of weekly savings. It has definitely helped us to implement some of the workflows that I've shared with you and to take that work away from our partners so they can focus more on other, more valuable work.

What is most valuable?

The thing that we find the most value in is the Process Discovery component and the ability to really see what users are doing on a day-to-day basis. We're starting to make sense of the processes that they're doing and getting visibility into what they're doing. Overall, the Process Discovery is very good. The product is very new to the market so there have been some issues here and there but Kryon support has been great in working through that. It has really helped us drive understanding of what's happening. It certainly helps us understand the work the users are doing, the like things they're doing, and it helps us filter some of that work.

What needs improvement?

The product requires some more time in development. It still has some bugs and some things to work out. They're constantly releasing. They need to continue working out the general issues of using the product at scale, first and foremost.

I've talked with some of their product teams about features that I would like to see. With the Process Discovery, they're collecting a lot of data and they're spending a lot of time in the algorithms of the data. But one of the things we've talked about very recently is being able to aggregate or summarize what a user is doing in a day. That summary wouldn't necessarily be in the context of a process, but in terms of the applications they're using, the timeline of what they're doing, the number of clicks per hour. That sort of information could be very valuable.

For how long have I used the solution?

We've been using Kryon for about for about four months or so. We are using version 19.4 of Process Discovery and 19.1 of the RPA solution.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

The stability has been pretty decent. There are certainly opportunities in terms of stability, but with each subsequent release it gets more and more stable.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

The product is becoming more and more scalable. On the Process Discovery side, you can collect a lot of data very quickly, so there is opportunity there. But overall, it's working pretty nicely.

We want to deploy Process Discovery across the majority of our company, which consists of about 1,200 or so people, to identify what they are doing. Over the next year, we are likely going to be deploying it on at least a couple of hundred users' machines.

How are customer service and technical support?

Tech support is great. They've been really good and very responsive. We submit our tickets via our portal. We feel that we get really good support from them.

Our interactions with their customer service are great. Really great. We've had a variety of people off and on, not a specific person. We've probably worked with half-a-dozen people, and all of them have been able to help us pretty successfully. We do have an account rep who manages our account from a higher level, and she has been consistent with us and has been really great.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

We did not have a previous solution. We came across Kryon from an RPA consultant who wrote a book on RPA. He used it a while back and recommended it to us.

How was the initial setup?

The initial setup was pretty complex. The install is certainly not for the faint of heart. There are a lot of options and a lot of ways you can install. Given that we were installing in the cloud too, it took some time and it took some troubleshooting and work, but we got there.

It took somewhere in the neighborhood of a month for us to get the AWS environment up and running and then figure out all the nuances and dependencies of the install.

Our implementation strategy was to work side by side with Kryon and our network teams and get it installed. They gave us some initial pre-reqs and things to install and things to look at. We were one of the first to get everything operating in the AWS environment, so there were some specific things to us that we had to figure out on our own.

For the deployment, we had the equivalent of one dedicated person for a month. And we have the equivalent of two people maintaining it. They are RPA developers who work on setting up RPA jobs and configuring Process Discovery, etc. We have five users in total.

What about the implementation team?

We've done it all internally thus far.

What was our ROI?

We have absolutely seen return on investment. We felt that we had to get to between 40 and 80 hours of weekly savings to get our ROI and we're already almost there, and that's good news overall. So far it's saving us about $80,000 annually. We expect that number to grow.

In terms of business analyst hours, it hasn't saved time there yet, but it will over the long haul for sure. It has definitely increased operational efficiency and has reduced human error by a pretty great degree, for the things we've automated. It does what it needs to do pretty routinely and pretty flawlessly.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

The cost is fairly similar to its competitors' costs. It might have been a little bit more reasonable than the others, and that cost was with Process Discovery in addition.

There were no other licensing costs, but there are our hosting costs and our own AWS cost.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

We evaluated Automation Anywhere, Blue Prism, and UiPath a little bit.

The biggest difference was that Kryon had Process Discovery and the ability to discover your processes across your base, and the others did not. That was a big differentiating factor for us. Automation Anywhere was starting to come out with its cloud deployment so users won't have to deploy everything internally. That was something that sticks. But in terms of the rest of the capabilities, they were relatively at parity.

What other advice do I have?

Spend time focused on standing up your center of excellence around the solution. Kryon gave us some great advice on that in the sales process regarding defining what we're trying to do with it. Get key sponsors and then get a key team that works through the implementation, together.

What we're learning from using the solution and what we're really still trying to figure out is what is a good candidate for an RPA process, versus the other ways we could automate, whether it's process elimination or deploying some of our core engineering teams to write different tools. We're still trying to figure out what the framework is for picking the best processes.

The processes that lend themselves to RPA are processes that are highly repetitive, high volume, low-judgment types of processes, where you can write down the process in a Word document, write down the logic, and then turn that into an RPA solution.

We haven't been able to make that leap yet, in terms of Kryon's full cycle of automation from the discovery of our processes to turning on the automation and scaling it up, but we see the potential there. We haven't quite gotten to that point yet, given how early on we are in our journey.

When it comes to using the solution, for both business users and developers, you do have to have some technical background to use it. It's unlikely that you would deploy it to somebody who doesn't have any background in it. But people who are somewhat technical have been able to use it pretty successfully.

I would rate Kryon at eight out of ten. It has a lot of potential and we see that potential. It needs a few more iterations for me to bump that score up higher. It has been a good experience so far and we're looking forward to the future.

Which deployment model are you using for this solution?

Public Cloud

If public cloud, private cloud, or hybrid cloud, which cloud provider do you use?

Amazon Web Services (AWS)
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Manual tasks that take hours can now be done by bots
Pros and Cons
  • "The advanced Excel functionalities are really convenient because we work a lot with spreadsheets. It’s also easy to use the HTML selectors. It’s just a click and it picks it up. There’s not a lot of no hard-coding with it."
  • "We use Google Drive a lot. If somebody sends us a spreadsheet or a document, it's going to be in Google’s format. It's not going to be in Microsoft Office format. But currently, there's no integration with Google’s documents. That would be a huge plus to have."

What is our primary use case?

We're automating a lot of shared services tasks within our homegrown system: payroll, billing, and things like that.

How has it helped my organization?

As a company that places temporary employees, we have talent globally. In the UK there are GDPR requirements. Before Kryon, when one of our field employees reached out to us saying that we needed to remove their records, that was all done manually. Now, that’s something done by the robot, giving people time back and reducing possible entry mistakes. It’s the same thing with fee entries within our system. That is something that might take somebody ten hours, whereas a robot will be able to take that off somebody’s hands and ideally reduce the time to complete.

In terms of embracing the digital transformation, there is the question of whether people are going to be accepting of tasks being taken away from them and what they're going to do with that time. But a lot of people have really embraced it, especially people who were taking ten hours to put fees into our system and who will be able to use that time for more productive and less mindless tasks.

What is most valuable?

The advanced Excel functionalities are really convenient because we work a lot with spreadsheets. It’s also easy to use the HTML selectors on most major sites. It’s just a click and it picks it up. There’s not a lot of no hard-coding with it.

While I have some technical background, everything is self-taught. I'm not necessarily a developer myself, but picking up the tool, with the training they provided, has been pretty easy. I’m currently the only person using the tool in our company.

What needs improvement?

We use Google Drive a lot. If somebody sends us a spreadsheet or a document, it's going to be in Google’s format. It's not going to be in Microsoft Office format. But currently, there's no integration with Google’s documents. That would be a huge plus to have.

The same goes for, using Chrome natively. There's an extension but it doesn't necessarily always work. We have to close Chrome and reopen it to get it to pick things up sometimes, depending on the page and the IFrames and things like that.

For how long have I used the solution?

We’ve been using it since the beginning of this year; about seven months.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

I’m not sure yet what I think about the stability of Kryon because we haven't been able to get things constantly running and working. We initially had the server issue. And then, there have been issues with Chrome crashing and the extension.

Right now our usage of Kryon is limited to our shared services team. We're taking care of those processes first. But we have plans to automate as many processes as we can get on our plate and get through.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

We have room to grow. We just have to figure out where we need to go from where we're at now. Right now it's a waiting game to get things fixed and running.

How are customer service and technical support?

Customer service gets a rating of 100 percent. They’re fantastic. They're always really quick to respond. If we have a problem or if we put in a ticket that is more high-priority, our rep will jump on it and get things escalated. They’re happy to work through issues and take as much time as needed to resolve everything.

The Kryon team has definitely helped prioritize processes that are ripe for automation. It's an ongoing process, but they give us a good understanding of what to expect and how to figure those processes out; what can and can't be automated. It was mostly through the training. Going through that with them gave us a better understanding of what sorts of processes make sense.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

We didn’t have a previous solution. We went with Kryon because of

  • the ease of use
  • the user interface seemed a lot better, more usable
  • some advanced features that others didn't have
  • the price - can't beat the price.

How was the initial setup?

We had somebody within our department doing the initial setup, although I was on the calls. It was a little bit complex, because there were some issues we ran into with Server 2016. When we tried to run an unattended bot on there it wasn't working so we had to switch operating systems. We've had to go back and forth to get things truly set up and ready to go. We're still working on the deployment, but that's not necessarily because of Kryon issues. It took some time to figure out the issue with the server, going back and forth with screen-sharing, etc.

And it seems that the size of the virtual machine that they provided with us might not be enough. We're trying to figure that out. Chrome keeps crashing on us. Once that is resolved, we have three or four processes that are pretty much ready to go. I just have to get through the actual testing of the running the unattended bots on the virtual machines.

In terms of an implementation strategy, we are working with our shared services teams to identify the processes. We have a daily “stand-up” and a weekly planning session to figure out and prioritize our processes. Then it's just a matter of building and testing and getting them out.

What was our ROI?

I expect that Kryon will save us money. It's too early to tell, but I would say that once it starts running there are going to be cost savings.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

There are different pricing levels for every bot or unattended bot. You can buy however many you want. You'll need an additional virtual machine for it to work on. You can get multiple attended bots if you have users who have Windows machines. You can run those locally on their machines.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

Automation Anywhere was one of the solutions we looked at. There were others but it’s been a while since we went through all of them.

What other advice do I have?

Make sure that you have your processes in a good place and that you have them written out. Make sure that you have your stakeholders onboard. And make sure that your bot works on the right server.

We don't use the process-discovery functionality of the tool. We're identifying our own processes by polling various stakeholders to see which processes make sense to automate. But it seems like it's pretty easy. We've hit a couple of snags with our virtual machines and the OS they are running and with the Chrome Extension. We're doing everything with unattended bots since we're primarily a Mac-based company. We're not able to run them on people's local machines other than the machine I use to create the Wizards.

In terms of operational efficiency, it might be a little too early to tell because we're stuck right now. But in the big picture, not only are we identifying processes, but we're also figuring out how to improve the processes, whether somebody is currently still manually doing them or a bot is doing the improved process.

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With no learning curve, the development time decreases
Pros and Cons
  • "The friendliness of the software is good because people without any technical background can start off on it. This solution makes it easy for us to use it, as there is no learning curve. With no learning curve, the development time turnaround decreases."
  • "When a project is very big, a lot of memory is taken up. Then, machines don't have enough memory. This could be improved upon to be more efficient."

What is our primary use case?

Our company buys products from vendors and sells services to end-users. Most of the RPA processes done in Kryon are related to order raising, as well as retrieving reports. We have automated processes involve SAP, Pegasus, ITSM tool, Words, and Excel.

How has it helped my organization?

It takes a lot of work and time to complete the business processes manually. When the users utilize the Kryon solution, it cuts off more than 50 percent of the processing time as the logic has been pre-built. There are less orders being delayed. Adopting Kryon solution has significantly improved the turnaround time.


What is most valuable?

The image recognition in recording actions is very helpful. It runs stably as long as the graphics on the applications are not changed.

What needs improvement?

The environment of storing the variables could be defined as local, which will only be accessible within the wizard itself and cannot be read by the embedding wizard.

It will be good if Kryon has a function to find/replace the keywords and collapse/expand the groups.

For how long have I used the solution?

I have been using it for about two and a half years.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

We did encounter some issues regarding to trigger often but our support team is able to resolved it later. Other than that, it is quite stable.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

It is very scalable. All we need to do is to set up the robot accounts and assign the access to it. Once it is done, we have to configure the trigger for the robot. Scaling up and down can be done in just a few steps.

How are customer service and technical support?

The customer support is outstanding. They are very responsive and will accommodate with our schedules.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

No, we started with Kryon.

How was the initial setup?

Setup for Studio and Robot is pretty straightforward. We have to install the Studio and Robot on the machines, create accounts for the users and assign access rights. Then login Studio to develop wizards and Robot to run the wizards.

What about the implementation team?

The initial setup of server was done together with vendor. Subsequently, vendor team came down to help us with the upgrade. They are very helpful and knowledgeable.

What was our ROI?

I am not too sure how much cost was saved. But there are a few people in the department were redeployed when one of our processes is up and running fine.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

I am not involved in any of those.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

We are using UiPath in conjunction with Kryon. I feel that Kryon has a better image recognition than UiPath.

I have tried a few solutions and Kryon is the most user-friendly.

What other advice do I have?

The solution is easy to use. Although I felt the solution is a little restricted sometimes as I could not call any external libraries, I am able to use the advance commands, which are the built-in functions in Kryon, to program the RPA solution by changing my initial idea. It makes me think out of the box and test how good my logical thinking is.

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Manager of Organization, Methods and Knowledge Management at Max-Cust-Wicoms1
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Helps reduce employee errors and enables us to decrease monitoring of employees
Pros and Cons
  • "We took a very complex business area, and every activity in it which can be done automatically is being replaced by the robot instead of people working on it."
  • "What we are lacking is OCR, the ability to read text. We would like it to have the ability to take a page which is free text and analyze it, and then for the robot to know what to do next. This ability does not exist in Kryon products."

What is our primary use case?

Our primary use case is two back-office processes from a specific area, an area which was very complicated. In the credit card world, there is a process called a chargeback, when the customer says he didn't do a specific transaction, or it's not the right amount. This process has a very long, complicated and regulated process behind the scenes, after the conversation with the customer. We used a robot to automate a lot of the process, to make it shorter, easier, and to save a lot of agents working on the process.

Every week or two weeks we are bringing on a new process with the robot. We are still in the middle of the automation move; we have a very big roadmap for what comes next. We are still on this trail.

How has it helped my organization?

The process I noted above is a main business area with a lot of very specific processes inside - we have now more than 15 specific processes in this business area. All of them, as of now, have saved us almost six FTEs. That's a lot of money. The savings are great and they will increase every month.

In the last month, we achieved 11,000 activities done by robot. Before Kryon, we did 500 each month. When we started with automation ten months ago we did a few hundred. Each month we have added more and more processes and more and more activities. It's quite dramatic, because we took a very complex business area, and every activity in it which can be done automatically is being replaced by the robot instead of people working on them.

In terms of Kryon helping us embrace digital transformation, we are very advanced in this area. More than 70 percent of our interactions with customers are digital. But Kryon helped us with some of the processes which are more complicated, where we had people doing things in the back-office after the digital process. Now we can do more of them automatically. It's another step in the same direction for us.

What needs improvement?

What we are lacking is OCR, the ability to read text. We would like it to have the ability to take a page which is free text and analyze it, and then for the robot to know what to do next. This ability does not exist in Kryon products, so our company is now trying another tool which has this specific feature - an IBM tool which combines RPA and OCR together.

Also, when the robot stops working for any reason - it doesn't matter if it's something in our systems or our infrastructure - it does not know to go back to the same point it was at when it stopped. We have to start from the beginning or to delete the report. It cannot continue from the same point. We would like the robot to know how to continue.

For how long have I used the solution?

We launched in October 2018, about ten months ago.

What do I think about the stability of the solution?

It's quite stable. Most of the difficulties are coming from the changes on our side.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

The scalability has been good enough for our needs.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

Prior to Kryon, we didn't work with another solution. But we are now starting to work with another solution because of OCR.

How was the initial setup?

On the technical side, the setup was done mostly by HMS. The issues we dealt with were mostly to do with the connection to our organization's system. The authorization issue was difficult for the system and many other aspects, but I know part of it was from our side. We also had some information-security issues. I don't think it was too complicated, but it took us about a month-and-a-half, to do the first at set up, and then it was much easier.

We learned a lot. We learned what we need to prepare for each process so the process will be the most effective and quick. We learned about the abilities of the tool and that helped us in thinking about the next processes and how to do things more efficiently.

We are also using BI to help us with more complex business logic. Instead of doing it in the robot, we are doing it in BI and giving the robot more direct reports to work on. It makes our process much smarter and efficient.

In terms of deployment and maintenance, we have one full-time employee working on it, and one of our business persons, a project manager, is working on it half-time. He's involved in building the business process, deciding what will be the next step, and helping close all the details on our side.

The maintenance is not high. It's just that each time the system is changing, we need to teach the robot the process from the beginning. This is the only maintenance we have. The other work is really to in developing the next process each time.

What about the implementation team?

We have a supplier doing the implementations for us, HMS. They are more involved in the technical details and issues. But next month, we are planning to do Kryon's course. We are bringing it here, and then eight people, both business and tech people from our organization, will learn the tool and then we will be able to use it by ourselves.

Our experience with HMS has been very good. We like working with them. We are continuing with them but from a budget point of view we would also want to learn to be more independent. But we'll definitely continue working with them.

What was our ROI?

Now that the process is cheaper for us, we have been able to change our business rules a little bit and save more money by automating. To give a simple example, if it was worthwhile for us to do a specific activity only if it was more than 50 shekels, now, when the robot is doing it and it's cheaper for us, we're doing it from the first shekel. We are saving more money by changing the business rules because the process is costing us less money.

It has also helped to reduce employee errors. This is also very important. And it has helped us in terms of monitoring because we need to do less monitoring of the employees. That's another area of savings, another improvement. In the beginning, we did need to monitor the automated process, but after seeing it and becoming comfortable with it, we were able to reduce our monitoring of employees.

What's my experience with pricing, setup cost, and licensing?

The first robot was very expensive.

For us, there are the additional implementation costs that we paying to HMS.

What other advice do I have?

We have a lot of people coming to us to learn from our process, so we've been providing advice already. First of all, it's important to do a very smart business analysis, from the business side, and not automate exactly the way it was done before. Really think about ways you can improve and make the business logic, the business rules behind the scenes, more effective. This is very important.

It's also important to look at becoming independent with the solution from the beginning. We have only started to plan for that now.

The authorization issues within our company also took a lot of time, so I would suggest getting those dealt with in advance.

Part of the difficulty in embracing the tool is on our side, due to bureaucratic issues that we have in our organization. Every change we make which results in a new version of the system the robot is working on means we need to teach the robot from the beginning to do the process.

For example, when we would have a new version of the system, we would ask our people, "Has anything changed?" They would say, "No. Nothing is new." Only after would we find out that something moved from the right to the left. Just one button. For the employees, it didn't matter. For the robot, of course, it does. And then we needed to teach the robot to do it again. So we have learned to prepare ourselves better before a new version is released. We receive all the screens. We teach the robot to do everything again. We're checking ourselves. We test more. These are things we learned along the way, "on-the-job learning." We wasted a lot of time on this because we did not prepare for it properly.

In terms of the prioritization process, we are working with a business analyst to decide exactly what the next process should be, what has the biggest number of activities per month and that the business case is important. We also look, from an implementation point of view, at whether we can do it. Is it accessible for us and not something very complicated which will not be possible? We take all of this into account and we decide which process to put in next. We already did the main business area and now we're continuing to another business area and doing the same process. One of the things on our roadmap is to optimize part of our monitoring processes.

From a business-analyst point of view, we are using a lot of analytics to make it very smart and efficient. So it's not saving us money in business analytics, it's the opposite. But it's worthwhile for us. The discovery process in our methodology is very important because each case is a little bit different, so we need to find the right rules, the logic.

The first process was the most difficult. We needed to learn how to work with it. But by using it more and more, we have achieved a very easy and quick process. The delivery time, now, is very good for us. We are adding a new process every two weeks. Now it's good, but the first time was more difficult.

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OCIO at mimun yashir ltd
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Enabled us to automate many processes in the first year and quickly adopt automation
Pros and Cons
  • "All our users have no technical background. But Kryon is really simple and intuitive. Our business adapted very quickly and easily. This is the main thing and it's why we love the system so much. It's why we are always trying to put more processes into the system and make more use cases: because of the simplicity and the intuitive nature of the system."
  • "I would expect that in the first year there is no ROI. It has to be measured over three or five years."

What is our primary use case?

We took all kinds of mindless operational processes, things we were doing over and over again and which cost us a lot of work time every day, or week, or month, and scheduled them to be automatic, with no human hand in the process.

We have a lot of examples. We make loans, although we are not a bank, for various purposes. Sometimes, people don't pay us back and the loans go to collection. We have to start all kinds of processes via lawyers, and when we transfer a case to a lawyer we have to prepare it. All the preparation for the lawyer is automatic now. All the letters for the lawyer with all the details about the loan, about the collection - everything is automatic.

Also, for each customer whose debt we transfer to a lawyer, we have feedback to our core system to update all the data in the system again. So all the data about the customer and the debt comes from the system to the lawyer, and feedback from the lawyer comes into the system. And all of this, of course, is connected to the loan itself, to the customer. Everything is aligned.

How has it helped my organization?

We are a digital company. We very quickly embrace all kinds of digital transformation. Kryon was just a part of that. We have engaged in digital transformation in many ways in our company. But the adoption of Kryon was very quick, and that is its advantage. Because it is a very quickly and very intuitively customized system, it helped us to adopt it through users who are not technical users. It really helped us to put a lot of automated processes in the system and adopt them very quickly. Now, my organization wants more. They say, "How did we live without it before?" It really helps us in our day-to-day processes, the ones that are not so complicated, not so involved, that we do over and over again.

Efficiency has increased. If robots are doing stuff we used to do, this increases the efficiency of the staff.

What is most valuable?

All our users have no technical background. But Kryon is really simple and intuitive. Our business adapted very quickly and easily. This is the main thing and it's why we love the system so much. It's why we are always trying to put more processes into the system and make more use cases: because of the simplicity and the intuitive nature of the system.

For how long have I used the solution?

We have been using Kryon for about ten months.

What do I think about the scalability of the solution?

Our original plan was to do something like two robots, and a few processes, but because it was such a success in the company, we expanded it. We have 11 processes. The eleventh is due to go live in about a week. Some of them are not complex, some of them are more complex. It depends on the process itself, the amount of time, the amount of integration, if there are dependencies on another system.

In terms of plans to increase usage, for now we really want to see how the day-to-day is going with all the processes. More processes mean more licenses and robots, and we have to do ROI as the next step. I would guess we'll do more, but it's already a lot to have 11 processes in a year with four robots.

How are customer service and technical support?

We, ourselves have not used Kryon's customer support. Maybe our third-party uses it on behalf of us. I don't know.

Which solution did I use previously and why did I switch?

This is our first RPA solution.

How was the initial setup?

The initial setup was straightforward. It was very quick, very understandable, very open. If we had problems, they were helpful. They assisted our third-party company. It was very easy to work with.

Deployments depend on the process. We have been working with the system for a little less than a year. After about two months, we had the first process working. It's really quick. When I say two months for the first process, that means we sat with the customers, understood what they want, how to do it. We had them test it, we launched it, we optimized it in production. The whole timeline of the process was handled in that amount of time.

We asked our organization to set the priorities. We asked for a quick win, meaning something very small and very painful, or something which was taking a lot of time. That enabled us to win their appreciation and reduce the resistance to change. Some people may look at it as a robot is replacing me. We handled this too by making them a part of the implementation process. This way, they wanted it, were engaged with it, and wanted to do more. It gave them something that they hadn't seen before. It gave them a feeling of success. It's very important, through the process, to feel like you are succeeding in doing something new in a very short amount of time. The people involved have to see we're not really replacing them, and that it actually helps them to do more, to do better, to do things that have work quality to them.

The people using Kryon are from three departments: collections, services, and operations. Not everyone is using it, because we're uploading files to the system. There a few people in each department who are doing it. Overall there are about ten people involved with it, but it services the whole department. There are the people who operate the system, and the people enjoying the fruit.

What about the implementation team?

Even when I purchased the license, it wasn't via Kryon. It was through a third-party. The product is Kryon, but the customization and all the agreements and the buying process were not through Kryon. It was with a third-party.

The reseller is HMS. All our connections to Kryon are through this company. All our processes of examination and solutions were through them. We are very pleased with the job they have done, with the service. They are very good and they helped us a lot.

But these days we are transferring all the knowledge, all the data, and all the operations of the system to our people, the employees of our company, so that we will be able to do it alone. The first year was through this third-party, and we have their support. And now our main goal is to be able to do it on our own.

What was our ROI?

Kryon has saved us money. We measure in terms of people. We haven't increased our employees in those departments, and we can say that we have saved nine employees, nine people we haven't had to hire.

I would expect that in the first year there is no ROI. It has to be measured over three or five years.

Which other solutions did I evaluate?

I wasn't part of the process. I had a colleague who did it.

What other advice do I have?

It depends if you are doing it by yourself, with your employees or, like us, through a third- party or someone who knows how to work with the system. If you're doing it through a third-party, there is no problem and they have all the knowledge, all the data, all the know-how about how to do it. If you are doing it with your own people, training is mandatory and Kryon has it. Some kind of on-the-job training, or some kind of support, is necessary to be able to implement it quickly and the right way, because there is a right way, a way to do it properly.

Kryon was not involved in helping us find and prioritize processes that are ready for automation. We did so. They were not part of this process. We came up with the processes, we talked about them, not Kryon.

I'm not the one who uses the system every day. I'm not the one who uses the customization. We go through a third-party which does all the customizations for us. I can't tell you which part of the system I enjoyed the most, or what I'm using because I have a third party for that.

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