Pure Storage FlashArray Customer Service and Support

Alfadel Alharthy - PeerSpot reviewer
Infrastructure Services Manager at NAMA

When we set up the solution we did not require a lot of support from the teams. The good thing about the support is they can access and upgrade the framework and all other aspects. However, the account managers from Pure Storage are not communicating very well with us. We want to talk to them about what features should be used, use cases, best practices, and other technical discussions. Additionally, we would like to know about the new features, the introduction of new technology in the storage itself. 

It would be nice if they could communicate this information to us.

The support is very good. They always call us for technical upgrades and firmware. If we have any issues they log in and we open a session for them, and they help us. The only issue is the time zone difference between our time zone and their time zone.

I would rate the support from Pure Storage FlashArray a five out of five.

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John_Sweet - PeerSpot reviewer
Sr. Storage Engineer at Charles Schwab

I would give a ten out of ten for the technical support of the tool. The solution has got good support and has always been able to help us.

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TY
Senior Network Engineer at US Dept of Energy Idaho Operations Office

The technical support is very easy to work with. 

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Buyer's Guide
Pure Storage FlashArray
April 2024
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Ricky Winandityo - PeerSpot reviewer
IT system infrastructure manager at Anabatic Technologies

Technical support is very good. They are helpful and responsive. 

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BH
Enterprise Solutions Architect at a logistics company with 10,001+ employees

We've never really had to call tech support for this product as we haven't had any issues. I attribute that to these guys paying attention to everything, every single detail, to make sure that their product is seamless.

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Ivan Monnier - PeerSpot reviewer
Infrastructure Analyst at Whirlpool Corporation

Technical support was good. We’ve contacted them multiple times and they were great. They have been helpful every time.

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DM
Infrastructure Systems Team Lead at a manufacturing company with 10,001+ employees

The support is okay.

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VinceVitro - PeerSpot reviewer
Senior Storage Architect at a healthcare company with 1,001-5,000 employees

I have not used support often but my experience was good.

I rate the support of Pure Storage FlashArray an eight out of ten.

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Murray-Kelleher - PeerSpot reviewer
IT Technology, Operations and Security Consultant at a construction company with 5,001-10,000 employees

I have spoken a lot to technical presales, and it's been fantastic.

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RG
Storage Specialist at a healthcare company with 10,001+ employees

They have very good technical support. The support model was great. They usually had things resolved in under four hours. Service is very fast.

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MW
Head of presales team at Aptronics

The support is amazing.

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Kleber Fernandes - PeerSpot reviewer
Diretor Comercial at a security firm with 1,001-5,000 employees

I rate the solution's technical support a ten out of ten.

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SR
Manager I.T. Infrastructure at a financial services firm with 5,001-10,000 employees

I haven't had any need to make use of the technical support team yet.

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RJ
Executive Director of Computing and Information Systems at a university with 5,001-10,000 employees

From what I have heard, the technical support has been good.

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KS
MTS - Core IP Engineering at a comms service provider with 10,001+ employees

I would rate them really high. On a scale of one to five, I'd give them a four.

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SajithEruvangai - PeerSpot reviewer
IT System Specialist - Operations & Infrastructure at Daman

The response from the technical support team is very good. We have not found any difficulties with their ability or engagement.

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PH
Solutions Architect at a wholesaler/distributor with 1,001-5,000 employees

Their regular support is good. With gold support, Pure's support personnel takes care of both software and hardware upgrades. The only difference between free support and gold support is that you don't get free hardware upgrades with free support. If I understand the offering correctly, software upgrades are still included. 

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JK
Senior Systems Administrator for Research at Chapman University

We've been incredibly happy with their tech support. There was even an instance where we were having an unrelated problem with our production Oracle Databases. If you can imagine having your production Oracle Databases randomly reboot approximately every 12 to 17 hours for no reason that you can figure out. It tends to be something approaching a resumé-generating experience. Out of the blue, we received a proactive, spontaneous call from Pure Storage support saying, "We're observing something weird on one of your Fibre Channel connections. We think you should take a look at this one SFP optical connector on this one channel, because we're seeing stuff on the array which looks unusual." We looked and it turned out to be the problem. We were having this timing error that was causing our databases (because they were clustered) to lose track of the fact that they were part of a cluster. They would just reboot. Pure Storage support, using their phone-home data analytics, solved it, proactively.

They even showed up at our office, just in case it was the Pure Storage array's SFP, not the one in our fibre-channel switch. Our salesperson and sales engineer showed up within an hour at our location with a replacement SFP that we didn't even need. 

Therefore, we are very happy with their tech support.

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Oleg Gussar - PeerSpot reviewer
Head of Administration Group at a financial services firm with 1,001-5,000 employees

The technical support from Pure Storage FlashArray is perfect. If we have some trouble or we need to change something, we need to ask for support and they are helpful and answered immediately. 

I rate the technical support from Pure Storage FlashArray a five out of five.

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JS
GIS Group Manager (Server, Dir Services, DBA, SAP BASIS/Sec, Mainframe, Storage, Network, & InfoSec) at Haworth

The technical support is fantastic and proactive.

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DF
Sr System Engineer at Stanford University

I haven't had to use their technical support much. The few times I had to call them, they were very responsive. I was happy with them. 

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Masood Khan - PeerSpot reviewer
Lead Storage Analyst at CLSA

The support from Pure Storage FlashArray is very good.

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VM
CIO at a manufacturing company with 1,001-5,000 employees

The support from Pure Storage Flash Array is amazing. I have never seen a vendor support a product this well. They knew challenges even before my team was able to figure them out.

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JD
Cloud Solutions Architect at a tech services company with 10,001+ employees

They are very good, but we are a large enough customer. We always deal with the same people, so it's not like we're going into the tier one service desk.

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MD
Virtual Storage Administrator at a financial services firm with 501-1,000 employees

The solution's technical support is good. I rate the technical support a nine to ten out of ten.

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CB
Senior Data Center Solutions Architect at ChaanBeard.com

I've used their technical support and would say that it's excellent. I would give them a ten out of ten. 

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Tim Kovars - PeerSpot reviewer
Sr. Systems Engineer at Quarles & Brady LLP

It has been great; easy to work with to resolve cases or perform upgrades.

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JB
Infrastructure Engineer at ISAM

It has been really easy to use. Their support has been very helpful.

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SS
System Administrator at a government with 1,001-5,000 employees

Their technical support is great. 

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Vladimir Blazek - PeerSpot reviewer
Solution Architect at Storage One

Pure Storage's tech support is excellent. They use AI effectively, and their support team is highly reliable and responsive. Our customers have experienced no issues with their support.

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David Ivorra - PeerSpot reviewer
CEO at Lynx View

Our experience with customer service and support has been very good. It is very good even though they are still growing, and they are very responsive to issues. They promise a 15-minute response time and are very good at keeping that promise.

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DG
Systems Engineer at a tech services company with 1-10 employees

Technical support has been amazing. I have yet to meet or talk to anyone who is not super knowledgeable. The only time I entertained any doubts, whatsoever, is when V-Vaults first came out. Certain people were not very familiar with it, but this was short lived. As we were extremely early adopters of V-Vault, training was provided fairly quickly. While the general tech support was not up to snuff, within a month or two they were all trained. Since then, there have been no issues to report. 

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JB
Sr Manager at a manufacturing company with 1,001-5,000 employees

I have never contacted technical support for this solution.

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AC
IT Contractor at a financial services firm with 51-200 employees

I've dealt with technical support previously. Their response is fast and mostly very, very helpful. We just need to enable the remote console on the array and then they just can easily troubleshoot by themselves. That way, we do not need more time to work with them. They just fix the problem for us.

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RS
Storage Solutions Architect at a manufacturing company with 1,001-5,000 employees

Technical support has been awesome. Sometimes, they've let us know about problems before we've even known that they were there.

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RG
Associate Director of Cloud Engineering at ZS Associates

Technical support is good, but not as good as we would like. We have to get our Pure account team involved often, and they are stars. That always solves the problem. Support is available 24/7, but sometimes they're not as detail-oriented as we would like in investigating problems.

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TN
Manager of Technical Management at a healthcare company with 10,001+ employees

Their support system has insight into errors on our SAN fabric that we can't see. They've brought attention to and raised awareness for us about things that we couldn't see, when we were experiencing problems. They helped us figure out how to fix them, helped us coordinate. They did not need to do that. It's just stellar support.

They're taking really good care of us. Their support is on the ball. They're proactive.

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KF
APAC System manager at a pharma/biotech company with 1,001-5,000 employees

Technical support is good. I get pre-preemptive notices from Pure Storage support. They will notify me to check certain parts because there may be a possibility of an issue arising with those parts. I'll know to take a look at the data center and from there I will be able to tell whether or not it's a false alarm or it's an issue that's about to arise. The pre-emptive warning is helpful for us. 

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RG
Senior Director of Databases at a wellness & fitness company with 501-1,000 employees

I have not used the tech support.

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LR
Fresh Operations Manager at Jerónimo Martins

The technical support is very good.

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PG
IT Manager at a consultancy with 5,001-10,000 employees

Technical support is very good. We have a dedicated person who helps us which has been a good experience. 

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CF
KYC Quality Assurance at a financial services firm with 10,001+ employees

We have been in contact with technical support a couple of times. They are quick to respond and we are very happy with the customer support team.

The support plan makes it simple to plan ahead.

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Animesh Kumar - PeerSpot reviewer
Professional Test Engineer at DXC Technology

The technical support is awesome, and there's a lot of documentation available online.

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WM
Technical Marketing Engineer at a tech company with 51-200 employees

The technical support comes out of one single stop. It is very helpful to have one single number to contact.

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JD
Director of IT at a healthcare company with 1,001-5,000 employees

We have our dedicated resources that we have reached out to, but because there have really been no issues with anything, we're not on the phone with them constantly. Whenever we have had an issue or question, someone is always very responsive. They even come onsite for major issues, such as an NOS upgrade, just to hand-walk us through what we're doing.

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it_user211857 - PeerSpot reviewer
IT Program Manager at a media company with 1,001-5,000 employees

Customer Service:

10/10 for Pure Storage.

6/10 for IBM.

Technical Support:

Pure Storage is excellent, while IBM is only average.

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KA
Chief Technology Officer at perfekt

I have used the support from Pure Storage FlashArray.

I rate the support from Pure Storage FlashArray a nine out of ten.

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TE
Hardware Architect at a comms service provider with 5,001-10,000 employees

The technical support for Pure Storage FlashArray is good. Support is quick and responsible. We get quick responses from the team.

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AM
Manager, Enterprise Infrastructure at a tech services company with 1,001-5,000 employees

From the feedback I've gotten, for the most part, the technical support has been quite good. They know their product quite well and they've been quite responsive. We are satisfied with the support.

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MS
Solutions Architect at SC PROSERVICECORP SRL

The technical support is 100% and they respond really quickly. Their Evergreen support plan is astonishing. They are a leader in this regard.

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SB
Supervisor of Systems Engineering at a computer software company with 501-1,000 employees

I have used Pure's tech support quite a few times. It's probably the best tech support experience that I've had. I love that, by utilizing Pure's SaaS platform, they let me know about problems that they've seen with other customers who are using the same version of the software or the same model array. They reach out proactively and say, "Hey, we've seen these kinds of things happen with other customers. You should do X to fix this so you don't experience the problems." It's something that most storage companies don't do nowadays. They make my job easier by being really proactive.

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AV
Senior Vituralization Manager at a financial services firm with 10,001+ employees

Technical support is pretty good. They helped us with a holiday show in case we needed anything. So far, the product is doing well with less downtime, so we didn't have that much opportunity to use support. But anytime we've needed them, it's pretty good and all the issues are dealt with much faster.

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PN
Architect at a financial services firm with 10,001+ employees

The technical support has been pretty good. The support team is available all the time and they seem to know what they are doing.

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DT
Head of Infrastructure at a wellness & fitness company with 1,001-5,000 employees

The technical support is fair and the team was helpful.

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GL
Sr Manager at a insurance company with 5,001-10,000 employees

I haven't had a lot of direct interaction with their support but VMware is very good.

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SK
System Administrator at VERIFI

The technical support did a good on the one issue that we contact them for (the power supply).

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it_user302121 - PeerSpot reviewer
Information Systems Analyst at a pharma/biotech company with 10,001+ employees

We haven’t had to use it. We ran into some issues, but found their technical engineer not as good as Nimble Storage's.

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TS
Chief Consultant and Architect at Tahir Professional Services

The technical support is very good.

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JW
CTO at CCL
PD
GIDC India - Architecture Design and Engineering Leader at a computer software company with 10,001+ employees

Technical support needs improvement.

With respect to them being able to respond, they're more marketing people, less technical. Some of these technical SMEs who I've worked with on Pure Storage, they're really good. However, overall, some accounts still have that thing in their mind that the support isn't as great as some of the bigger companies like Dell or HPE.

That said, that's not the experience for me.

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RZ
Manager of IT Department at Office of Technical Inspection in Poland

The support is very good they quickly react to problems.

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NW
ICT and Security Specialist at a comms service provider with 10,001+ employees

Their support is very good, first-class. 

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BP
Systems Engineer at a government with 1,001-5,000 employees

Technical support for this solution is excellent.

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RB
IT Manager at a government with 51-200 employees

The technical support is great.

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SD
SDDC Senior Director at SK Telecom

The technical support is okay, but could be improved.

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MB
Director of MIS at Watson Clinic

Tech support is helpful when needed.

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FP
Systems Architect at a financial services firm with 10,001+ employees

We don't use the tech support, but we have an in-house engineer in one of our offices.

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RS
Storage Solutions Architect at a manufacturing company with 1,001-5,000 employees

Technical support is great. They will dive in deep with your team to figure out what is causing the problem for them and find the root cause.

I wish they could collaborate more with the other vendors internally, instead of us opening cases with Cisco, HPE, VMware, etc.

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SB
Platform Technologies Lead Engineer at a energy/utilities company with 1,001-5,000 employees

The support is excellent.

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TS
IT System Engineer at a tech services company with 501-1,000 employees

Technical support has been very helpful throughout the process. They can assist during the setup process. They make everything very easy.

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JN
Sr IT Analyst at a local government

I had to contact customer support when a drive failed as I was doing a couple of OS upgrades. The service was pretty good. They knew what the problem was and they were able to remove in by enabling remote features. They shipped out a replacement and we swapped it out and shipped it back. I am satisfied with the technical support.

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WB
Network Manager at Macc 911

I can't even remember dealing with technical support. 

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RC
System Administrator at a financial services firm with 1,001-5,000 employees

Technical support is very good. We are very pleased with support. We think that it's probably one of the best vendors we work with, as far as support goes; compared to NetApp, for example. Pure storage support people are very responsive and knowledgeable.

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PK
Technical Consultant at Injazat Data Systems

I'm satisfied with the support. Comparatively, it matches with Windows. I don't see any difference in the levels of technical support. 

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DM
IT Supervisor at a financial services firm with 501-1,000 employees

We have only used the technical support for upgrades. They respond very quickly and are efficient at what they do.

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JD
Head of Infrastructure Architecture at a manufacturing company with 5,001-10,000 employees

Pure Storage has proven to be proactive with support. Even when we have small problems, they open a support case before we even notify them that there has been an actual issue.

We receive good quality of support from the first line of support, so we don't need to escalate or wait through a long process.

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JH
Infrastructure Manager at a insurance company with 501-1,000 employees

Their technical support is excellent. It's the best out of any of the vendors we work with. 

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MM
CTO at a tech services company with 1-10 employees

The guys in technical support are great. They're on the money. Our client, Chapman University, is on a first-name basis with the Pure support guys. You get really good interactive support from the Pure team.

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Itamar  Garcia - PeerSpot reviewer
SAP Services Manager at Think about IT

We have a close relationship with customer support and they are good. 

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JM
IT Manager at a educational organization with 10,001+ employees

It is very good.

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DA
Enterprise Account Executive at a computer software company with 11-50 employees

Technical support is great. They are helpful and responsive. We're quite satisfied with the level of support they offer customers. 

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SM
Soporte TI at a university with 1,001-5,000 employees

Technical support has been good. We haven't had any issues so far with them. We are satisfied with the level of service. 

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JW
Infrastructure Architect at a wellness & fitness company with 1,001-5,000 employees

Their technical support is good.

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CC
DBA at a financial services firm with 1,001-5,000 employees

When we've had issues, technical support has been really good about resolving them quickly. I was on the call with them when we had the issue with the controller, and they were very, very helpful.

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DK
Senior Manager of Technical Alliances at a tech vendor with 1,001-5,000 employees

The support is great. The support has been amazing.

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FL
CTO at Ticel

I would rate the technical support as a ten out of ten.

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JH
CTO at a individual & family service with 1,001-5,000 employees

We only use tech support infrequently. We don't need to call them. It's easy to use, straightforward. Once it's set up, it does what we need it to do.

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JE
Pre-Sales Engineer at Cisco Systems, Inc.

I have not used the technical support.

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PS
Infrastructure Architect at a government with 1,001-5,000 employees

We've had to use tech support on a number of occasions. They did everything remotely and talked us all the way through. They fixed the issue within 30 minutes. Every single time we contact them, they're perfect. I would give their technical support a ten out of ten. 

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DP
Sr Infrastructure Architect at a energy/utilities company with 1,001-5,000 employees

The technical support is very good.

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AZ
CIO at NGS srl

It has very good support.

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AD
QA Engineer at a tech vendor with 11-50 employees

We have an in-house engineer in one of our onsite offices.

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MV
General Manager at PRACSO S.R.L.

Pure support is very proactive. They monitor our infrastructure in real-time, so they respond before we even open a ticket.

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DA
Implementation and Support Engineer at PRACSO S.R.L.

Their technical support is excellent. Once we raise a ticket, they respond very quickly. Even better, their support is proactive. In most cases, they are the ones contacting us, not the other way around.

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RW
Infrastructure Engineer at Paylocity

The technical support is strong and responsive. I would say response is probably the most important. 

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SS
Systems Admin at a government with 1,001-5,000 employees

The technical support is really good. They are really responsive. For the call that we had, we had a call back within 15 to 20 minutes.

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FF
IT Director at a tech services company with 51-200 employees

We have only used the remote technical support in the case of the disk. They are very good. They acknowledged the problem quickly, identified it, and are always asking and seeing things, which in some cases, are more difficult for us to see.

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DB
Digital Architect at CBC/Radio-Canada

The support is good.

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RF
Sys Admin at a consultancy with 1,001-5,000 employees

We had to open a ticket with their technical support. We needed to get NIST certified and we had some of our storage on that PRA and we had to be done at the end of the year 2017 so we were in constant contact with support to ensure that we were going to meet all the requirements. In the end, we did hit that date.

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it_user186294 - PeerSpot reviewer
Storage and Backup Engineer at a healthcare company with 501-1,000 employees
Customer Service:

Customer service has been outstanding. During the HA testing in the POC period we had people contacting us to verify that status of the array before we had completed the testing phase. They are thorough and capable.

Technical Support:

Implementation was flawless and any remote support they handled any questions we had with ease. There really haven’t been issues of any nature that required much technical savvy though.

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GC
Project Manager at WFSFAA

I have not contacted technical support.

My main point of contact has been the reseller.

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SC
Team Lead at a tech services company with 51-200 employees

I haven't had much to do with technical support. Typically, we'll deploy it for our customer and hand it over, and then they'll manage it from there.

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TR
Chief Technology Officer at a healthcare company with 1,001-5,000 employees

We've used tech support and we have found it to be very favorable.

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ZS
SRE at a tech company with 1,001-5,000 employees

We will usually hit up technical support for something that's not too major. We've never had a SEV1 outage with Pure but we've enabled remote support. They log in and they're good to go.

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JM
Systems Analyst at a government with 501-1,000 employees

We've used them a few times, mainly with upgrades. They are quite responsive and our local team was pretty good.

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EP
Director at a healthcare company with 1,001-5,000 employees

Pure did help us by coming onsite and deploying it.

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MR
System Engineer at a consultancy with 1,001-5,000 employees

I have used the technical support through the phone and online tool. I used them to upgrade the software, which work okay (as it was designed).

The technical support team provided the help that we needed.

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MO
Senior Network Systems Engineer at a consumer goods company with 1,001-5,000 employees

Technical support is very responsive. We had an SSD fail and they replaced it within 24 hours.

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VK
Senior Manager at a tech services company with 10,001+ employees

Their technical support is great. We don't have to contact them frequently because we don't have many problems. 

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MS
IT Architect at a hospitality company with 1,001-5,000 employees

The support has been very good from Pure Storage FlashArray.

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JV
Architect at a tech services company with 51-200 employees

I would evaluate the technical support as good, I have a team who calls in for support, if there an issue. They have not complained to me about any problems.

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BD
CTO at a healthcare company with 1,001-5,000 employees

The support has been good.

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JA
Senior Manager of IT Infrastructure at a educational organization with 10,001+ employees

I contact technical support from time to time. They have been pretty good. I have the mobile phone for one of the tech support guys, so I call him. He usually gets the ground troops rallied if need be, so the support has been good.

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VA
Owner at a tech services company with 51-200 employees

Compared with other products, Pure's technical support is as good as anyone's, probably better. They have tools where the customer can see for themselves the performance and the statistics from the solution, so support is first-class. There are some third-party companies, that evaluate the technical support of different companies, and Pure ranks number one.

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FS
Datacenter & Cloud Architect - South America Zone at a manufacturing company with 10,001+ employees

The vendor was helpful during our implementation.

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JH
IT Officer at a university with 1,001-5,000 employees

The technical support is very fast.

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KG
Senior Director of Systems Engineering at Bill.com

The technical support has been fantastic.

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JS
System Engineer at a consultancy with 5,001-10,000 employees

We are currently having a situation where one of our VMware hosts is not being detected. It has been told to us that it has been presented to Pure, but the VMware host is not capable of seeing it. The support has been working with us, although it's not an instant fix.

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it_user649044 - PeerSpot reviewer
Chief Information, Facility, Purchasing and Services Manager at Roma Metropolitane S.r.l.

Customer Service:

I would rate the customer service as very high.

Technical Support:

They are all skilled. They upgraded the storage firmware from remote every time we asked via a phone appointment.

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it_user277047 - PeerSpot reviewer
Lead Storage Engineer and Architect at a tech company with 1,001-5,000 employees
Customer Service:

Their support and customer service is excellent. They monitored our storage arrays and knew about issues we had when they were reported. They assisted and made themselves available for some work where help was needed.

Technical Support:

I would rate their level of support an 8/10. Only because issues require escalation during off hours, but they do respond when issues are escalated.

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CL
Network Engineer at Altura Credit Union

The technical support is very good.

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SB
Sever Engineer at a healthcare company with 11-50 employees

I haven't contacted their technical support firsthand. 

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PG
Unix and storage manager at a comms service provider with 1,001-5,000 employees

Technical support is excellent. I've had very good responses from technical support. We had a couple of cases where we needed support. Some of the communications were purely over email and some has been an actual call to the service desk. 

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VT
Deputy Executive Officer at a transportation company with 5,001-10,000 employees

Technical support is great. They make it simple.

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PW
IT Manager at a consultancy with 51-200 employees

We haven't needed to contact customer support. 

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TC
Systems Engineer at a tech services company with 501-1,000 employees

While the technical support is good, they are not as good as we would like them to be. We often have to get our account team involved, who are stars. This always solves the problem. Support is available 24/7, but sometimes not as detail-oriented in investigating problems. E.g., we get our Account Team involved to manage the engineers involved and figure out what the problem was. Support is not perfect.

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GK
Engineer at CSG Systems

Their technical support is good. We had issues that they resolved quickly. 

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it_user187086 - PeerSpot reviewer
Associate Infrastructure Manager at a tech services company with 10,001+ employees
Customer Service:

The business partner performing the support/customer service is very knowledgeable and they even perform weekly visits to determine if all is well.

Technical Support:

Technical support is very helpful and the relevant Subject Matter Experts (SMEs) are readily available globally.

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JA
Intertecno Co-Founder at a tech services company with 1-10 employees

Technical support is very good.

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LA
System Engineer at a tech services company with 51-200 employees

I haven't needed to use support. My employees say their support very good.

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BT
Cloud Administrator at a tech services company with 51-200 employees

I don't interface with technical support too much. Overall whenever I've had to interface with technical support it's always been a very positive experience.

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BH
Network Engineer at a logistics company with 201-500 employees

The technical support is great.

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Solutions Architect at a non-profit with 1,001-5,000 employees

Very good.We did a PoC.

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AE
CTO at a financial services firm with 11-50 employees

Excellent. Best of any of the vendors we work with.

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TM
ICT Operations Manager at a comms service provider with 51-200 employees

Technical support is good. They are proactive about the upgrades and reactive when we have any issues.

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PA
Owner at a tech services company with 11-50 employees

I have interacted with them. They respond very fast to our queries.

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Pure Storage FlashArray
April 2024
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